Awful and Awesome Ep 398: Frankenstein, Dhurandhar trailer, All Her Fault

While discussing the movie Frankenstein:

Rajyasree: In not-so-surprising news, Abhinandan has not watched anything we were meant to discuss this week. 

Abhinandan: We will start the show with Frankenstein, which I did watch. And I must say, it was a masterpiece. I knew it would be because it was not Rajyasree’s recommendation. 

Rajyasree: One second, whose recommendation was it? Guillermo del Toro called you and said watch my film?

Abhinandan: Ya, of course!

This and a whole lot of awful and awesome, as Rajyasree Sen and Abhinandan Sekhri review the series All Her Fault, the movie Frankenstein, the trailer for Dhurandhar, and a Vogue India article headlined “Is having a boyfriend embarrassing now?” 

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Timecodes  

00:00:00 - Introductions and announcements 

00:06:23 - Headlines 

00:11:50 - Frankenstein
00:25:00 - Letters

00:31:48 - Is having a boyfriend embarrassing now?

00:39:08 - All her fault 

00:47:45 - Dhurandhar trailer 

00:53:55 - Letters

References & recommendations 

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Frankenstein 

All Her Fault 

Is having a boyfriend embarrassing now?

Dhurandar trailer 

Gujarat man files for divorce over wife’s obsession with stray dogs 

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Rajyasree: Hello, hello. This is the Awful and awesome entertainment rap episode 398. This is Sen 

Abhinandan: and this a banana. We recording this from very polluted deli. Someone do something. Most of that's my eyes are red. Ri It's not because, not because of drinking. No. 

Rajyasree: Like run, sing. Look. The look is like run weird. Singh 

Abhinandan: s eyes are red.

Rajyasree: But in that, you know, we have a beautiful trailer, trailer. Trailer. That trailer, no, I think there 

Abhinandan: maybe his, his insides are crying, that he's starring in such a, you know, at least by the promo, such a shit film. Anyway, but sen, before we start, may I make an announcement? 

Rajyasree: I, I have no choice but to say yes actually.

Abhinandan: Oh, very good. Rashis. So. Many of you [00:01:00] who may be following the news may be aware of this, many may not, but the government in its largest, let me read the headline. The largest, largest, and the headline has agreed to the recommendation. The committee relating to premium rates to be offered for coll advertisements and preferential positioning.

The information broadcasting ministry said this is to offer revenue support for the media ecosystem because as you know, the government is very concerned about the media ecosystem. In fact, I have 18 income tax notices to prove how concerned they are for the media, media ecosystem and almost a hundred days of court hearings such concern for the media of the government.

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Abhinandan: So actually send. Mm-hmm. Now you also quickly make an appeal of the QR code flashing next to your face. 

Rajyasree: Is it next to on? Not in front of my face. No. 

Abhinandan: Next to your face. 

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Abhinandan: Mm-hmm. 

Rajyasree: In this week's headlines. Mm-hmm. If you had logged onto, uh, your Facebook or on any social media. Herman was [00:07:00] declared dead by everybody, which is on social media. This is an ness. I've noticed that if something happens in the uh, world, and especially if a celebrity, uh, dies, everyone starts posting about rest in peace, this thing, like, why are you, he's not, anyway, not reading what you're writing, I know as family, but in bad, but not surprising news outlets like India today, arch, the a VP news, like the list is long and illustrious.

Ran with the news of his death without any fact checks and the usual suspects, Rubik, ak.

Abhinandan: But in good news, the media and pap were given a real bollocking by the, the, were spreading fake news and. You, you have to be it. It's like in the US I mean, you have to be really horrible to be called a horrible man by Epstein. Yeah. In the males elite. So for so diol to and [00:08:00] use the chair word Es, considering the man who occupied an MP seat and did for any good, for anyone but occupied deceit, for him to be calling out the media and you guys to still lap it up, you must have the self-esteem that is less than a micron in diameter.

Correct. 

Rajyasree: In just news, uh, RA all joined up last week. 

Abhinandan: Right. And not surprising news, it wasn't for worthy cause, but for self-proclaimed Saint Babara who collapsed because the poor chap isn't used to so much exercise. 

Rajyasree: So he, uh, this baba bag who was a young chap, he must be, 

Abhinandan: he's in his twenties or something, 

Rajyasree: whatever.

He's definitely younger than I am, even, I would not have collapsed as quickly as he collapsed. 

Abhinandan: Anyways, so in good news, there's a new Christmas song in Town 

Rajyasree: In Bad [00:09:00] News. It has been sung by Priyanka Chopra, and it's a Hindi remake. Oh, really? So how does it go? Last, last 

Dhurandhar trailer: s

Abhinandan: Christmas. Some 

Rajyasree: English sentences thrown in

Abhinandan: Christmas.

Rajyasree: I'm quite impressed that they asked her to sing and that she has, she did want to have a music career, right? So sen in not so surprising news. Has not watched even one of the things that we [00:10:00] were to discuss. 

Abhinandan: So we will start a Frankenstein, which I watched I, and I will say after a long time and be, I knew it because this wasn't RA's recommendation.

It was 

Rajyasree: my recommendation. It was a 

Abhinandan: masterpiece. I will tell you why when we come back, no, 

Rajyasree: no. One second. Whose recommendation was it? Ghi Mo de called you and said, watch my film. Yeah. You can't pronounce his name correctly. He is wrong. Record

Bar. Bar. If I'm married, a Punjabi name bar. I think it's a, it has that Punjabi sound. Actually, before 

Abhinandan: we start that, there was this piece of news that I sent to Rad Street. Uh, here it's flashing on your screen. Gora man files for divorce or wife's obsession with stray dogs, sites, stress and erectile dysfunction.

Now I will search, you know, bar and bench live law, the law, who's following this case case because I want to know [00:11:00] how the, you know, honorable court reacted to this and 

Rajyasree: Barron Bench was following you, but rash, no, I 

Abhinandan: haven't been able to get to the bottom of this. The picture is an 

Rajyasree: ei picture, neither to the bottom 

Abhinandan: or the tip of it also is not visible.

But, but she said this reminded me this kind of, you know, obsession trauma, stray dogs and his erectile dysfunction and the erectile. What does this have in common with high protein? Uh, you know, the nutrients you get for canines in all these pet shops. 

Rajyasree: You don't get any high protein nutrients for canines by the way you do.

I've seen, oh, human beings, you get no 

Abhinandan: for canines. You get high protein diet 

Rajyasree: that's pedigree non whatever. What is 

Abhinandan: it? The thing that I have common, that both are good for dogs, but bad for Cox, 

Rajyasree: for more such Cari humor, subscribe to your laundry. Here is the quote, you'll get a 26% discount. 

Abhinandan: Did you get the joke?

It's 

Rajyasree: very 

Abhinandan: bad. It's a very good [00:12:00] joke. 

Rajyasree: Do in school. Humana is too much, 

Abhinandan: right? What she said now. Now let's talk about Frankenstein 2025 Frankenstein masterpiece. Do you agree it's a masterpiece? First of all, I'm not gonna acknowledge you. Recommend it because you did not. 

Rajyasree: I did recommend I even called you after that and said, please, will you watch it?

It's a really good thing. You also 

Abhinandan: sent me coke and popcorn. 

Rajyasree: I would have if that would have, uh, this thing encouraged you to watch it anyway. 

Abhinandan: So 

Rajyasree: you told me. I wasn't sure you'd understand, but it seems you have. So it is, 

Abhinandan: uh, the actors are, so I'll give the brief then you can give the commentary. It is produced by Gem Road Del.

It is based on, uh, the famous book by Mary Shelley, uh, Frankenstein, uh, the, the Modern 

Rajyasree: Day Prometheus book, the Modern Day 

Abhinandan: Prometheus. It is starring Oscar, Isaac, Jacob El [00:13:00] Mia go, which is appropriate because it is an gothic, this thing. And of course, the brilliant Christopher Waltz, who I think is, is Christophe Waltz.

Christ Christophe Waltz. Christ Christophe Waltz, right? Yeah. Uh, it's based on this man, ob surgeon, obsessed with conquering death, who threw the body parts of various soldiers because there's a war on the first World War, I'm guessing. Puts together this creature. Um, no, not the first all war. This was finished in 18.

18, so 18. So this was some other war, clearly, way before any world War. Um, and he puts together this creature brings it to life. And this creature is this abomination of life and, uh, how this doctor realizes the folly of his vanity of wanting to be God. That is the theme and how this creature turns against him and wants to kill him.

Yeah. 

Rajyasree: So, so I love the book. So she's married, Sheri was married to p Shelly pb [00:14:00] Sheri, who was also a beautiful poet and he was a philosopher as well. And the most important part is that she wrote this in 18. 18. It was published in 

Dhurandhar trailer: 18. 

Rajyasree: Yeah. Two. Think of this story at that time and to write it. She is considered to be the first basically science fiction writer.

Mm. And, uh, it's called Modern Day Prometheus because Prometheus was, uh, fell out of favor with Zeus. Oh, I thought it was when, before 

Abhinandan: Theus, when he 

Rajyasree: was an amateur. Then he became a pro from it, his, because he stole fire from the gods and gave it to the human. So it's a horrible story because, but most Greek, uh, myth is quite horrific.

And Zeus was a horrible, uh, God. Anyway, his punishment was that he was tied to a rock, and an eagle was tied to him who used to eat his liver every day. And then the next day, the liver would regenerate 

Abhinandan: [00:15:00] to eaten again 

Rajyasree: to be eaten again. And then finally her atlas, uh, released 

Abhinandan: him never ending supply of k 

Rajyasree: ha.

Which I would not mind, but maybe not tied to rock. But, uh, so what I, uh, what I loved about this Jacob El Roddy, you remember from the film that we watched Elvis? He was sitting next 

Abhinandan: to us. 

Rajyasree: No, Elvis, he was 

Abhinandan: actor. Oh, right. 

Rajyasree: Remember we saw Elvis and it was very good. So Jacob El Adi plays Frankenstein's monster because also he's unnaturally tall, according to me.

And uh, it used to take him eight hours every day to put that makeup and all that 

Abhinandan: on. Now you're doing, uh, what, what do you call Modi Type Could be pal though, if it took him eight hours to wear the makeup. How long did he shoot for? They 

Rajyasree: said 

Abhinandan: three hours. We only shot for three hours every day. So 11 hours was his time on set?

Rajyasree: Yeah. And then it took four hours to remove. 

Abhinandan: This is like Modi's. No. 

Rajyasree: Yeah, I've seen days. You, [00:16:00] 

Abhinandan: okay, so, so that's eight plus three is 11 plus 

Rajyasree: four. 

Abhinandan: Plus four is is 14. 11 press for 15. 15, right? Then he goes home. Okay. Which let's say commuting is 20, 30 minutes, then he goes and straight away goes to 3%. What can I do 

Rajyasree: if this was the, 

Abhinandan: do 

Rajyasree: you believe it?

Why will they make up, why will they make up about the makeup like this? Hmm. No. But anyway, what I loved is that, so did you realize that some of the scenes are straight out of paintings? That thing, the creation of man, there's a thing where he puts his finger out and he is touching, uh, Frankenstein once the monster comes to be.

And, uh, so it's beautifully shot. Guillermo Deltoro has this thing about women falling in love with monsters. He did with Shape of Water. Also, he did it. There's another film that he'd done before. There are always this love story of women falling in love with monsters and why they fall in love [00:17:00] with monsters is one underlying theme that he has.

But also that thing of, uh. Frankenstein actually starts sympathizing with the monster. That's not in the, like, it's a more sympathetic story over here. And in the novel you don't hear from the monster's point of view. So in this, they've gone into that, right? It doesn't 

Abhinandan: have that either. Correct. But 

Rajyasree: it's a beautiful book.

You should read it. But why it's also interesting is that Mary, she, she wrote this when they went to stay at, uh, Byron's, uh, home, which was a castle. And she had these dreams, which were disturbing dreams. And then she came back and she started writing this book. But when she died in her drawer was the people as in whoever, her friends, and all found, uh, PB Shari's heart.

Abhinandan: Like the real, 

Rajyasree: the real [00:18:00] heart. 

Abhinandan: Hmm. 

Rajyasree: Which had calcified because when he was, uh, and the NRA 

Abhinandan: chais. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because 

Rajyasree: she had it, she had a note and everything, but, and his friends had given it to her basically when he was cremated his heart and a few other organ maybe because of just at the, also used to die really early and all it had calcified.

So she had kept it wrapped in muslin, in her drawer, in her bedroom bedside. And didn't rot. No, it was totally calcified. It was like, its still rot. It didn't rot. And, uh, but the thing is she's miracle was clearly, uh, maybe it was America, but she was clearly a little disturbed, I feel. But she was an extremely talented woman.

It's a beautiful book, but it's so well, like etched out, ized. So, 

Abhinandan: uh, did you cry? It's a, no, I didn't. It's a masterpiece. It's a shame that I had to watch it. On a laptop screen. This is a film [00:19:00] made for big screen, not Marvel comics, not the DC world. Marvel universe, X Universe. This is a film. I wish. If it comes again to cinemas, I will definitely go watch it.

No. So 

Rajyasree: it wasn't released in theaters, right? What? It was a Netflix tragic 

Abhinandan: thing. It's no, but 

Rajyasree: to give Netflix that too, also to, 

Abhinandan: uh, produce a film like this. Sure. But this film, even if they've produced it, they should, they can still release it. I, I mean, I don't know. For 

Rajyasree: me elsewhere it was released, but in India it wasn't released in It's spectacular.

Abhinandan: The cinematography, the lighting, the compositions, I think this is Oscar material. I'd be surprised if it does not at least get nominated, if not win. Best costume design, best production, and best cinematography and lighting. Uh, the sets looked phenomenal. Um, the attentional detail was unprecedented then.

Um, I. The script and dialogue too was outstanding. Just the one-liners. Yeah. The 

Rajyasree: what, what I do very well. Yeah. [00:20:00] 

Abhinandan: And you just say, shut tooth. That's, I never say like that. You don't talk like this. 

Rajyasree: You, 

Abhinandan: I say 

Rajyasree: speaks like this. You're confusing us. Outstanding.

So the 

Abhinandan: script and dialogue, um, it was just, just outstanding. Um, 

Rajyasree: so that coffin that they show also Nico 

Abhinandan: Yeah. 

Rajyasree: That coffin used to actually be used. Mm-hmm. So that's the way people were, uh, buried earlier. It's just, it's very beautifully done also. Yeah. And Charles dance plays, uh, Frankenstein's father, who, that's the, so this has a commentary on many things.

Frank's father, 

Abhinandan: Victor. 

Rajyasree: Victor Frankenstein's father. Oh, 

Abhinandan: so he's also, okay. Got it. Huh. 

Rajyasree: Uh, so this is a commentary on many, many things that if you have an indifferent parent, what happens to you If the parent your love dies, what happens to you? 

Abhinandan: Should you play [00:21:00] God film? My guess, but I mean, I mentioned this morning, uh, at breakfast that I really like this film and the downside of having a mother and a sister who are both teachers of English literature.

I got a few, this was basically, um, one of several books written in the industrial revolution. Hmm. Which was also, I wasn't paying full attention. I'm so surprised. So much of, you know, over information of Shelly and all these other people, whatever their names are, it was a commentary on the, uh. The sense of power that the human race and the middle class had come to face with the industrial revolution, the sudden growth.

Yeah. Uh, of, um, the dangers of playing God. And it was one of a series of books that written during this time, fair time when, well, which I don't know what the other books were. I was, I was busy focusing on my Friday. Uh, the one thing about this film is, and I think this [00:22:00] several films fail to do it, is in the fantasy genre.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. So in the fantasy, fantasy genre, a lot of stuff that is not plausible goes with the genre. Some films mix it up like it is the fantasy genre, but not quite some things they want to explain. But yet, then if you explain some things, you cannot explain the others. This doesn't do that much.

Yeah. Remains true. The wrong. Like it never crosses your mind that this man is living alone in the castle Miles from anyway. Who's feeding him? Who's such a huge castle alone. He's cleaning up alone. He's doing everything. Or he'll die Victor. Huh? Know these kind of things don't even cross your mind. I mean, although they did cross my mind, but purely because of came poor mentality, but not because it, the one thing that I found a little unreasonable was that the clothes, how did its clothes fit?

No. Uh, that, that, that, how did, uh, I mean, why was she so enamored by, uh, the monster Elizabeth? But that's 

Rajyasree: what I'm saying. He [00:23:00] has this, that 

Abhinandan: bit was, it was just too much. 

Rajyasree: No. See, so this is, you are speaking like a man who thinks that women will only like, like why should you like a monster? 'cause the 

Abhinandan: monster the inside of the man, he's not a mon, not because he's a monster.

You don't see someone and suddenly, oh, he's so, I mean, you can be feeling sym sympathetic. No, she was little. Yeah. So I mean, you don't fall in love with someone just by seeing the person. I don't think that happens. You haven't been watching Hindi films. Other people would fall 

Rajyasree: in love looking at the feet and all.

So, 

Abhinandan: and this German dude who was also in in Gloria Ba stopped was he is dude that guy's just screen presence the way he can carry a scene. And even the lead who plays Victor must watch. If you haven't watched it, please go watch it and read the book. 

Rajyasree: I would say read the book and read Philip k Dick's, uh, do Electric Sheep Dream of Androids, which is what Blade Runner is based on.

And that was written in 1968. [00:24:00] It's just remarkable that these kind of like the sci-fi films that we watch now, were written actually. Almost a century back, right? Mm-hmm. So, so read, do Android's dream of, uh, do Android's dream of electric ship, not the other way around. Oh, two centuries 

Abhinandan: actually. Russia, huh?

Two centuries. 

Rajyasree: 1968. Oh, this is 18. 18. This is 18. 18. I'm saying, uh, the other one. Mm-hmm. The other sci. I know, but what a, it was really a beautifully, and just, it was like art artwork on the screen. 

Abhinandan: Beauty, it was a beauty. 

Rajyasree: I didn't like her, but women at that time were like, I think I, I think 

Abhinandan: she was so well cast and she really had personality, man.

Rajyasree: This is the thing. No Punjabi men like all these like chu also is not coming out of her mouth. 

Abhinandan: Did you watch the same film? Yeah. Chu was not coming outta her mouth. What was little bit, what was attractive about her? That she fucking was a ball crusher. She fucking fucked anyone who fucked with her. But 

Rajyasree: she [00:25:00] looked like she was very like, mm, no.

Abhinandan: What are you saying? Was she mm or was she not? She 

Rajyasree: was also mm, she was quite 

Abhinandan: a bit. She just didn't speak but when she spoke she fucking fucked you man. Like me? No, 

Rajyasree: like I don't speak also, but when I do you don't 

Abhinandan: keep quiet only. No, I am at heart. I'm a very quiet person. Re was so smart and like mine. No.

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Rajyasree: Ha Swathi has written. Hello. I really enjoy watching your show, especially the casual conversations between reviewers. I try to follow all your recommendation and love, ease Punjabi. Picks 

Abhinandan: [00:26:00] Yo yo 

Rajyasree: my husband. It really sounds like background music when you are getting beaten up by your husband, this will be playing My husband Punjabi and I enjoy Punjabi music even though we barely understand the lyrics.

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Should have a complete audio version of all our stories, but I will just share it with everybody. So Roshi, jt. But thank you for your subscription, please. Thank you husband. And, uh, I haven't got a Punjabi recommended this time. Next time I'll come with one. 

Rajyasree: It's okay. Ruhi has written, uh, golden words need to be recited in every pride march.

Print them enlarge and hang it at the Louvre. Uh, it's something I said. I don't know what I said, but I am usually very wise when I don't even realize, uh, and there's a lot of L-G-B-T-Q-I. So the princess is gay. Me, someone is gay. Like everyone, quite a few people are gay in this thing in the show, but one, it doesn't make sense.

These 

Abhinandan: are your words. 

Rajyasree: Oh in the royals. But I've said something ha in this thing, but one, it doesn't make sense. R is an ally we cannot afford, but we must have. I feel your pain. I've been on the podcast. Can't afford her, but [00:28:00] it's nothing without her. The queen must lay and slee. She does. I agree with everything I've said.

Our compliment. It must be good. Only has kept it short and sweet for the next episode. I wrote melodies over Magnus. Content give us harmony is not hysteria. 

Abhinandan: Thank you Neha. I've also got a few other males saying that we should do this episode so I'll do it 'cause ra, but will you get 

Rajyasree: am as your celebrity hosts.

She's 

Abhinandan: clearly reluctant to do this 'cause she'll actually have to do some research. I'm not very music 

Rajyasree: friendly. 

Abhinandan: You don't have any music friendly to do, are you? One sec. Are you saying that anyone who's done a PhD on any music that are music friendly? No, it is just, we are looking at Indian cinema and the songs as a reflection of gender dynamic commentary of how women are perceived, how we're expect it to be.

You don't have music friendly for that. It's like, I'm not an archeologist friendly person, but if [00:29:00] some bit of information about how certain artifacts that are found, tell us something where the politics of a time I'm interested doesn't mean I'm a fucking archeologist, 

Rajyasree: but speaking of music, milli Vanilli, the one who is still alive, just won a Grammy finally, 

Abhinandan: finally this time he sang.

Rajyasree: No, no. For the voiceover I think is done as an voice. The, yeah, 

Abhinandan: Aldi got a Excel sheet going of the songs, so if you can think of any song which kind of perpetuates or advocates this,

whatever the fuck, if you know of any such songs, mail them. Ab ri@gmail.com [00:30:00] and then we will kind of start decoding. How long this has existed and was there ever a change? Then Rahi said, you can also get your Bengali songs to this. 

Rajyasree: I think I listen to Bengali songs. Hmm. This is a myth that people think that I listen to Bengali songs.

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She did not say she, but someone has 

Abhinandan: also mailed the same thing 

Rajyasree: enough with the files and stories. Would love to hear your thoughts, both Abana and Ri. Okay. I think Barmah has 

Abhinandan: been recommended. You write by several people, you should check it out. 

Rajyasree: Al has also written, I am Nimal, an avid listener of News Laundry podcast and everything.

You guys make [00:31:00] my suggestion for awful and awesome is Baram a movie on Netflix. It matches the same details of Kashmir files, but in a better manner. The rest, you guys are doing an awesome job. I'm so proud to be your listening partner. My weekends are loaded with entire teams podcast. Atul and Jeri take the top spot.

Poor Atul will hang himself if he heres this space. What to to be shred in the same brand. 

Abhinandan: Anonymous has sent a 10 word email suggestion for a, and next time at least watch the trailer so you have some idea. So, which one? This 

Rajyasree: time, nothing. You watch nothing. So he's saying at least watch the trailer. Also have some 

Abhinandan: idea what we talking about.

Okay, good. Good suggestion. Anonymous. 

Rajyasree: So this time. We have a trailer, which Aand then has watched 

Abhinandan: four trailer 

Rajyasree: because it is, you get the gist of the 

Abhinandan: right 

Rajyasree: film. 

Abhinandan: Yeah. 

Rajyasree: So should we discuss the trade off? 

Abhinandan: Yeah, we can discuss that because I [00:32:00] haven't watched anything else. Yeah. Uh, but I have read the article that was sent to us, which Manisha wanted us to talk about, which has become a pop culture phenomena, which went viral.

It's in vogue about, you know, how boyfriends are something to be ashamed of, or, I, I didn't 

Rajyasree: even, I did not really understand what the big deal was. 

Abhinandan: It was a completely nothing article. Yeah. And I going to, it's gone viral and it's become this sensation. I don't know. I 

Rajyasree: have, I did not know that. It has, Manisha won't 

Abhinandan: lie.

She, it has gone viral. It's been republished. I the, where all everyone's commenting on it. Basically. It, it's this article, the link is in the show notes below, which says that is having 

Rajyasree: a boyfriend embarrassing now. Or showing hi or, or acknowledging. That's a headline you wanna publish. That's a no. The headline is, it's having a boyfriend.

Embarrassing now. Yeah. I don't know. But this article is embarrassing. It's very uh, badly written. I mean, it depends on who your boyfriend is. Depends on my boyfriend. I mean if it is, I don't have control. Is your boyfriend. 

Abhinandan: Don't tell people if it's ish, 

Rajyasree: then you see Ish. 'cause ish. '

Abhinandan: cause then you have to explain the BM BMW and the horses [00:33:00] came from.

Rajyasree: I'm fine with that because by then I would have sold the BMW and horses and kept the money and fd, no fd. You're not supposed to keep whatever I'd have invested. I'd have bought a house in my RA or somewhere. I'm gone. 

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Rajyasree: it depends who your boyfriend is. Undoubtedly 

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Abhinandan: ashamed or not. 

Rajyasree: Whether you should be embarrassed.

Abhinandan: If it's Salman can then 

Rajyasree: shh. Yeah, if it's Koray, I think it's because of the two, I have to say koray, which is really low. But also what are these articles now? Like what the 

Abhinandan: fuck was the article and why has it gone? Why it is such a dumb article, which says it's very bad. Nothing. I don't understand what is the point it's making.

I dunno. 

Rajyasree: Then I felt, am I distracted while reading it? So I read it. I did one and a half times I read it and it remained bad. Maybe actually 

Abhinandan: it went to our heads. We need to understand 

Rajyasree: it. Maybe we didn't understand. Do you know? Like we talk about Ali, 

Abhinandan: you read, 

Rajyasree: maybe their generation will understand. 

Abhinandan: Yeah.

Clearly 

Rajyasree: Manisha's a little, little lower [00:34:00] generation than us, younger generation than 

Abhinandan: us. She's put over a decade younger than me. So it's clearly So the full generation. So 

Rajyasree: maybe it's a different generation. It's appealing to 

Abhinandan: No, no. It didn't appeal to her Even she said it's nothing. No, no, but I, but she also I think was wanting to ask that she, can you make hetero?

Yeah. She 

Rajyasree: told me, have you read it? So I said, I don't even know that it exists. Then she said, no, you ask Niku Ni Nicole have an interesting take on it. But when I read it, I was like, Niku anyway is not watching anything. I'm telling you now this article you really won't watch even more. But really, but the like 

Abhinandan: of me reading something 

Rajyasree: is higher than me watching something.

That's what also, it's a short article, but when a short article is also. Boring. It's a little Then, yeah. 

Abhinandan: Then it's So, 

Rajyasree: if your boyfriend is as boring as his article is, you should be mad then Don't acknowledge. Yeah. 

Abhinandan: Don't acknowledge. Don't 

Rajyasree: acknowledge him when he's sitting in front of you. Also, sometimes that also works.

Abhinandan: Mm-hmm. Some 

Rajyasree: men are too thick to realize that that's what it's, and also 

Abhinandan: it depends on what is the purpose of your boyfriend in your life. 

Rajyasree: What is the purpose? I mean, what 

Abhinandan: is the 

Rajyasree: purpose? 

Abhinandan: Is it only love? [00:35:00] Is it sustenance? Of course. Do you want someone to. Just de-stress you on the weekends do. 

Rajyasree: You 

Abhinandan: can call up 

Rajyasree: urban company, they'll say, I wanna massage.

I don't understand why. That's why I have to spend time with, do you 

Abhinandan: want someone who actually to, you know, share space time, whatever the fuck 

Rajyasree: that. Also get a dog. Do you 

Abhinandan: want, I'm gonna give you all a solution for every problem. Do you want someone to, now for example, to some of my really old friends who completely platonic, I have actually sometimes accompanied them for parties or weddings or something.

Just Oh, so do you want something that no one should fucking come to me with any up Yik can. I either, no one will try to set them up with someone or no one will try to hit on them. I'm the

just smile, make some conversation people. But that's not 

Rajyasree: qualifying as a boyfriend 

Abhinandan: that, yeah, it's so, but, but some people may actually want that purpose to be served. Okay. How [00:36:00] I'm, I'm currently engaged. How fucking don't bomb me with your, okay. But that is also purpose. What this article assume is everybody looks at relationships the same way, which is, I think, the biggest myth of civilized society, which has convinced generation after generation after generation that everybody's expectation from a relationship must be the same.

And generation after generation after generation have swallowed that bullshit and have constructed what an ideal relationship should be like. And that is the biggest reason for the, but 

Rajyasree: that's patriarchy. Huh? Was the 

Abhinandan: patriarchy or patriarch. But everyone's got, even men have got ked. It's, but it's that, that there is.

This is the template. 

Rajyasree: Yeah, yeah. That is that, that, that even, I agree because a lot of people I know if you say that I'm in a certain [00:37:00] kind of relationship, they'll say, oh, but does the person do this, this, this, if they don't do this, this, this, that means that will not qualify the person as a, uh, either a romantic partner or a boyfriend or a husband, because to qualify as those things, they are certain, like 10.

Point checklist. That has to be tick TikTok. But this article is not a good article and I don't think, uh, we should have been made to read it because we, Paul, we'll take this up with Manisha because your 

Abhinandan: editorial director Yeah. You cannot abuse your staff like this. Yeah. We deserve bloody the value bonus of reading this article.

Rajyasree: Yeah. Because she No, she's gone. No, no. Val's gone Christmas. Any religion we are finding bonus has some bonus has to come. Are we, because this was, this also confused me that Am I too stupid? I'm not understanding. See that you didn't need that? I can, I can volunteer that information. No. If I had to go by what your opinion of me is, then I would have, uh, jumped [00:38:00] off a building long time back 

Abhinandan: and if I, I had to go by how you talk to me, I would've please come under a truck.

Ni I 

Rajyasree: nobody could paid 

Abhinandan: cut piece who taught me this word cut piece. Cut. Peace is okay. And who refers to me? I was like, fuck. What the fuck? What do I refer to you as? Cut, shut. Fuck off. Cut. Peace. Pick up that glass. The fuck? Cut. No, I never, 

Rajyasree: I speak to you. So affectionate. Fuck off, please. People are stopped on the road and said, oh God.

So just 

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Rajyasree: I am terror. You know, you, you shocking. Just joking. You're like, 

Newslaundry ad: you're like, you are projecting, you're like, you're like movies. 14 hours. Really? You're projecting people believe it. 

Rajyasree: But, uh, there's a very good show, which, so we are going to be reviewing, I'm seeing it on this so that AB Banana can not do it for next time.

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Rajyasree: We are going to be reviewing the hack, which is on Lionsgate play. 

Newslaundry ad: Okay. 

Rajyasree: And the hack is about the Guardian's investigation into the news of the word hacking scandal. Oh. [00:39:00] And it has David. Please promise It is really good. It's a little slow and plotting, but then it's going to be a little bit like that.

But, uh, so we will review it next time, but this time we are gonna review all Her Fault. Which stars from succession? Sarah Sno, the daughter. Oh, so she's the protagonist. And, uh, it's on, it's based on a novel. It's on Andrea Mara's novel by the same name. And, um, so it's on Hot Star. If you're not, if you're want to, you should watch it because it's really good.

Uh, like it's a good watch. She plays a wealth manager. Who is married to another wealth manager? Health manager. Health manager? Well, he seems very healthy. So he is a health manager. Well, man. And they are in this swanky, massive home. She goes from work, she goes at around 4:00 PM to pick up her son from his play date where she's been given the address by [00:40:00] the mother.

And because her nanny has taken off for the day and she just, oh, you told me about this. Yeah. She reaches, she rings the bell and this woman opens the door, this older woman, and she says, oh, I've come to pick up, uh, whatever the son's name is. And this woman says, uh, there's no one, like your son is not here.

So, and she's a very sweet, polite woman. So she said, no, this is the house. So she said, no, this is not, I live here and there's no one else here. And this, like, you can see her getting a little worked up. Mm-hmm. That where's my son then and her son is a. Like whatever, 6-year-old, like a small child or less, I think.

And basically her son has been kidnapped and the whole thing is about one because she, so the other mother who fixed up this, who she thought was fixing up the play date with her on a, uh, WhatsApp, no, it's Dakota Fanning. You've seen Dakota Fanning. I don't know. [00:41:00] You've seen if you see her face, you know, and she never fixed up the predate.

Someone just used her name I and used her number. Yeah, no, and she didn't check. This woman did not check against the directory. All that. And that moment a got fanning is also a working mother. She is, she works in a publishing house in the marketing department and uh, heads marketing for this. And her husband is a teacher and a school.

This one's husband is of course a wealth. So there's a whole. It's a mystery. One of question, it's a mystery. And there are lots of twists and turns about who is where, how did the child, how many episodes? It's eight episodes, I think it was. And it is really, really, so at the last episode, I felt a little bit of, like, if you think about it, they should have been, they should have figured it out before someone would've been caught before, that kind of thing.

Mm-hmm. But the twists and turns are very good. [00:42:00] And, uh, the characters and the mo, so there are cops investigating this thing. So even how the cops follow through with an investigation and what they follow through and what they don't su suspect and why they don't, it's very well done. Mm. So there's a commentary also on this thing of if you are a working mother must be a bad mother because only mothers 

Abhinandan: who, and also again, the blaming in Bengalis Nanny.

No, because her name in, uh, succession was she. Shiang. Yeah. So the Roy 

Rajyasree: are Vs. They're vs. That's true. Maybe the succession Roy, why didn't they explore that angle? Yeah, 

Dhurandhar trailer: that was, but these are 

Rajyasree: Bengali media and fire. We know of people like that also, but it is really good this week 

Abhinandan: only good things have happened now.

Yeah. Other than this. And I saw article 

Rajyasree: other than this article and the other show, which we won't review, but you should [00:43:00] watch just because it's a really good watch. It has David Ney in it and it has Jack White, tall, another comedian. 

Dhurandhar trailer: No, 

Rajyasree: he says you've seen him also. He's very nice looking. It means, looks really good in this.

It's called Malice. Malice is on Amazon Prime I think. Yeah, it is on Amazon Prime. Again, it's like an eighth episode. It's a murder mystery. This guy joins again. This it, maybe it's a PR campaign against nannies because basically maybe Jack joins his family as a Manny and. Then the hac he creates. But it's all very beautiful people.

And David Ney is still so lovely. 

Abhinandan: Absolutely. 

Rajyasree: Mm. Familiar 

Abhinandan: name. Who? He 

Rajyasree: XFiles. 

Abhinandan: XFiles, right? Right. Fox. So does she, um, Fox mul, two things. You know, when you talk about Roy, she always, she Roy to me, what's her name? Sarah Snook. Sarah Snu. Huh? This is, I dunno what I mentioned. When we reviewed succession, this is the one [00:44:00] thing that I had to do.

Artan. Like Avan, he often used to do. Mm-hmm. But I don't think his conscience spoke to him. He did a lot of artan and then he got Modi in return. Good for him. I found her the most unlikable. In succession. But she's supposed to be unlikable. No, I think it's just the built in sexism. Because then when I started dissecting, I was like, out of all of them, emotion shouldn't hurt.

She should definitely be, not be the one. But then I said the oldest brother is the biggest loser, the one who wants to be precedent objectively. Who was the, he was 

Rajyasree: very cute. He's such a 

Abhinandan: dick. Okay. Who's like this loser who throws big party so that he becomes popular. Like he is the biggest loser. He's like worse than Sunil.

Shari, okay. Yeah. But he's nicer looking, huh? So then this al whatever, Ken, that Kevin, Al Nick, that home around kids younger brother Kevin 

Rajyasree: Alkin, who is lovely. He is the most horrible, like 

Abhinandan: he makes fun of poor people. [00:45:00] I mean, he is the most dis, he has the most despicable attributes that, that I detest most in people.

Dhurandhar trailer: Mm-hmm. 

Abhinandan: When I look at her attributes, which are also, and then the other brother. Ken. Yeah, but he's a toothy anyway. Poor thing. And I was like, but why do I dislike, why did I not want her to get most? I think it's sexism because as objectively, she is not as bad as the other two brothers, but she's a woman.

And I guess in my head I couldn't say a woman taking over the, I thought she 

Rajyasree: should get it. Just screw the brothers over. 

Abhinandan: Hmm. 

Rajyasree: And I loved her husband, Greg and I, no, Greg is not her husband. Greg is our Thomas, whatever. 

Abhinandan: The guy, her husband is that her 

Rajyasree: husband and that nephew. That cousin. 

Abhinandan: Oh, the very tall guy.

That's so, they're very funny. They were so funny. What a great to India you could have just, he showed it some oil. Yeah. 

Rajyasree: And that scene where he is, Tom, I [00:46:00] think her husband's name is Yeah. Correct. Is Tom is, uh, interrogating that guy. It's in a, and he, upon my me and Ka and Guy says, he says, have you read it?

So he says he has a couple of times he said, why were there some Easter eggs? You didn't get them? 

Abhinandan: He's damn funny. He's 

Rajyasree: a Shakespeare actor. What is the Shakespeare actor as in a Shakespeare 

Abhinandan: actor? What's the Shakespeare actor? 

Rajyasree: They act in Shakespeare. So am 

Abhinandan: a Shakespeare actor. No, but I also acting in Shakespeare.

Art. Doris in Macbeth. 

Rajyasree: Oh, art Doris. You're pronounced correctly. I, sorry. 

Abhinandan: Julius Caesar. 

Rajyasree: I'm quite, who was Art? Doris some sergeant at the back. One soldier 

Abhinandan: demonstrates how he definitely was not an important person. How well you know your classics. Wait Art? Doris was a teacher who has a KU one scene as just him on stage.

Rajyasree: You gave us a little key. 

Abhinandan: Yeah. I'm trying to warn Caesar that Caesar, these guys are gonna kill you. 

Rajyasree: And how old were you? 

Abhinandan: I dunno. I was 15, 14, 15. And they 

Rajyasree: had, like, [00:47:00] Jackie Raf has his lines written on the other person on a post, like on a chart paper. Did they have your lines written on someone? 

Abhinandan: She said, I still have the first scene of Macbeths verbatim in my head.

Rajyasree: So the one thing I'll give Abana credit for, but I don't know whether it's a sign of intelligence, but he has a, uh, what do you call it? A photographic memory when it comes to texts and poems. Poems. Poems and all. But not when it comes to recognizing 

Abhinandan: people. 

Rajyasree: People. That's, that's 

Abhinandan: because I've started not taking creatine.

Rajyasree: Your hair will become better. Your brain won't. 

Abhinandan: Ab we know all these very, very 

Rajyasree: rein, your hair will become better. 

Abhinandan: My very credible intas are telling me that if you started losing your memory, 

Rajyasree: you become like that Insta. Where did you get the new Insta? Like God 

Abhinandan: No, because dude, I don't remember anything, man.

I mean names and faces. So I've started having creatine. Is it the right thing? Tell us. No, 

Rajyasree: you just get illustrious hair. That's all you get. 

Abhinandan: Right? What she said. So [00:48:00] we've watched two lovely things. I watched one lovely thing. She watched two lovely things. Yeah. Uh, so. Said,

she said, please watch this trailer, this one.[00:49:00] 

Rajyasree: But I loved it and I wanna go and watch it on Big Skin. You won't come with me. Fifth December, I booked the tickets. Think about it. Don't say no immediately. 

Abhinandan: Is there anything else that's releasing? You're not gonna watch the I'd love to if there's something that No, no, we, 

Rajyasree: there's better stuff released Frank Stand, 

Abhinandan: been released.

We could have had such a wonderful evening. We would've had a nice ATU dinner. If I'm lucky, 

Rajyasree: sometimes 

Abhinandan: I get four 

Rajyasree: like RI and because I was pieces of potato's. Very sad. But Durda is directed by Runda. What does it mean 

Abhinandan: first? Say it right. Dur. 

Rajyasree: Dur. Dur. I'm not gonna speak in that RI manner. I'm not dur 

Abhinandan: Bar.

Tell me, where is this character from? She 

Rajyasree: so bad from the family. Ma'am Ker is 

Abhinandan: a character from a Rishi Muji film. Oh [00:50:00] then I, which is a comedy where he creates this fictitious character, which Al who's a Bengal, a really gifted actor creator. And 

Rajyasree: my Al's own brother is My uncle is my p We are very close to the that family.

See this is the so and his, but his brother was not. His brother used to be in tea. My that. He's my, and you are in a soup. See how this is called a video? No, this is not called a wi. This is not called Wi. 

Abhinandan: So kind says, whichever one of you has time to watch movies. Please watch A House of Dynamite. I think he's talking to me.

Yeah. It's supposed to 

Rajyasree: be very good. Yeah. 

Abhinandan: By Catherine Bigelow. Guardian gave it. Who is who? Five Stars. James 

Rajyasree: Cameron's ex-wife, who made the most fabulous war films. Oh, 

Abhinandan: nice. 

Rajyasree: And she won an Oscar. Did, oh, did she 

Abhinandan: make that boat one? Where they are going, uh, all the boats. They go on. All the civil boats also.

Greg something, 

Rajyasree: Catherine Bigelow. And, and that was the other thing. She, and it is 

Abhinandan: [00:51:00] based a true story. Anyway. The first, no, we have to also, sorry, we are talking about the trailer. We going Catherine 

Rajyasree: Bigelow made her locker zero dark 30. Okay. Strange. DH She also got nominated for an Oscar the same year as James Cameron got, and she won.

That's a 

Abhinandan: great thing to do to your ex-husband. So Rashid Durand is clearly a film that is, what does it mean? Tell me. Durand means tremendous bombastic. Oh, dur world dur like Durda film, ma'am. Like, 

Rajyasree: so it's the same as a Bng Ollywood, mind blowing. Amazing Durant Durant. I don't know. It's something like that.

The B word. But it has a star cast. It has Sanja.

Something's happened to him. You should really find him nice looking earlier. So 

Abhinandan: there's this guy on Inta. He is very funny. He has this, he has, and he just makes this face and he puts her so sad. He puts a rah on his head, Ulta. So he looks like, [00:52:00] and he

interrogating someone because actually understand it's, he's really funny. He is very 

Rajyasree: sad, but I'm sure our 

Abhinandan: producer will find him and put him there. But he's, he's damn funny. 

Rajyasree: So AK Sanjay that, uh, the most handsome is not in 

Abhinandan: the world. 

Rajyasree: June. So I still so handsome. I just wanna say Ali, when I came down, I said, I really like the traitor and I'd watch it so I don't understand why people are out trading about it.

So she said, because it's Muslim bashing. So I said, but if it's a al doing Muslim bashing, I'm okay with it. But he's 

Abhinandan: the Muslim who's being bashed. 

Rajyasree: He's the Muslim who's being bashed on you. Did you even understand the trailer? He's also doing, oh, that's a hin new man. He is torture. See? So I felt for the character now instantly because it's a, then there's, when we sing, who for the first time is looking decent fel.

Abhinandan: Anyway, I just think this age will be known as the age of losers where losers because of [00:53:00] political patronage. Had all the stars sign on to films that didn't deserve to get made but got made anyway. And this director of this film, he's that, um, actor with Promise, her husband Ya, Yami, Gotham's husband, 

Rajyasree: actor with Promise, 

Abhinandan: I mean the two fuck man.

Really Girl. A life. Anyway, so Vira says, I love you both. Bantering about everything under the sun and just to stand with. Rahi also felt KLPD after sitting through eight episodes. Rather. If you watch KRA chapter one, kra actually K Kra. Oh K. So, uh, I actually want to watch kra. It's a film, right? 

Rajyasree: There's so many things you want to watch.

I writing it down 

Abhinandan: here and what 

Rajyasree: will happen if you write it there, this, 

Abhinandan: then I'll remember 

Rajyasree: Then you throw this in the desert upstairs. 

Abhinandan: No, 

Rajyasree: but yeah, it's supposed to. But I, there's another film which Ali told us to watch 

Abhinandan: Loka. Mm-hmm. So that. Two males left. One is we read, let's read. No, no, [00:54:00] sorry. One male left, no.

Two males and Ru 

Rajyasree: ru. Ru has written. This is in reference to Abby. If I may call you that. You can call him wherever you want. He'll respond. Reverence and admiration for pu. You may choose to address this or not on the podcast, I will understand both choices. We are not used to people being so understanding with us, providing a background.

I have been a curious deputy and a self-confessed fan of Gandhi, G since my childhood. His unique way of thinking and strength of conviction amazed me. I grew up reading my experiments with truth multiple times since the age of maybe 10 to 11. What also helped was that my Nana G looked really similar to him, so I always felt this connection with him.

Just a week ago I came across a person stating that he did some experiment where he got in bed with his granddaughters and slept with them. It's not a made up thing. I was en read beyond words because even though I'm a very critical person, my brain refused to believe it, research it after calming down and was shocked at the facts I found.

[00:55:00] Please share your views in writing if you don't want to address, address this on the podcast, but please voice your thoughts also. Hi Ms. Sen. Match after you both. You can give your views first. 

Abhinandan: So, yeah, Ru, it's true. Um, ba the several things about him that I thought were a bit weird and often I didn't agree with, he was a terrible father for one.

Um, 

Rajyasree: and a negligent husband. Also his, uh, negligent 

Abhinandan: husband. Uh, his, uh, refusal to, uh, administer scientific medicine to Uba when she was unwell. His, uh, sexism, uh, so I don't think he was a perfect man, but as men go, he had one thing which I. Put up there, in spite of all his flaws, which I disagree with. His conviction, his commitment to truth for me was so extreme that, you know, we are all, uh, uh, amalgamation of our [00:56:00] attributes.

Some positive, some negative, you know, some virtues, some vices. So in that cost benefit analysis, his virtues were so humongous that they, for me, overshadowed his vice. For example, Martin Luther King, I mean, if you wanna read up about it, the podcast, he was, uh, quite a philander by the way. And, um, he was not a great husband.

Uh. Like many men were at the time and in my home state are still

Rajyasree: friendly. Hair bot. What's nice about Punjabi manna? They're so friendly. The wife is sitting there, but they're still friendly. I love it. 

Abhinandan: But, uh, carry on. Yeah. So yeah, for me, he's still a hero. His, uh, portrait, very lovely portrait done by Rri ADONs the Wall in my home and my office. So, yeah, I think he was really, uh, really flawed in [00:57:00] many ways.

But what he excelled in, he was just so amazing. Like, for example, Jordan did not speak up on black issues really bad. But what he did for sport man, huge. Muhammad Ali, not a nice husband, but when he stood for. His blackness. Damn. No one had the guts to do that. So everyone's a mix of both, I think. Yeah. 

Rajyasree: Yeah.

But it is, it's a little odd the way, uh, like as a woman, I'm saying when you are in awe of someone, and there was a lot to be in awe of, of Gandhi, if he was in your life, and especially if he was, uh, someone whose politics you believed in that freedom struggle. If someone like that tells you that, you know, it's that power play that you say mm-hmm.

That, okay, I want to see how I can control my urge. So you be N or I be N It's very difficult. To say that, why did [00:58:00] they not say no? And also the pressure I, I feel for those women. But um, now it is what it is. All our gods have clay feet. What is it? Yeah. Feet of stone also never idolize someone. You've got feet 

Abhinandan: of stone or feet of clay, changes the entire standing of the gods.

Choose feet of clear Feet of stone, 

Rajyasree: right. Feet of clay and wash away, you're saying? 

Abhinandan: Yeah. That's the whole idea that they'll just dissolve where feet of stone. 

Rajyasree: But it fits. Well done. Claim It'll take a while. 

Abhinandan: It doesn't put in a K 

Rajyasree: if it's yeah. 

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Rajyasree: I'll show you. Okay. Now it'll not, it depends on the clay.

So there are degrees and degrees Paris layered. This is also layered and also. Rudi had written this. This is in reference to episode 3 52, where Ms. Sense spoke about the idea of you, where Anne Hathaway was much older than the male she was involved with and how the end made you cry. [00:59:00] Okay. I just wanna say I do cry a lot Yeah.

In a lot of things. So don't, so, uh, you should not, um, take 

Abhinandan: that as a sign of anything. 

Rajyasree: Yeah. But still it's nice that you have I en large, she's extreme 

Abhinandan: self-indulgence. 

Rajyasree: My crying is my self-indulgence. It shows that I have a heart. Now, you should also try and cry once in a while. 

Abhinandan: First all, actually, I articulated this before, not your crying.

Crying is an act of self-indulgence period, no matter who does it. But I don't cry usually, which I have such a problem with RDUs. It is complete self-indulgence. But you are so 

Rajyasree: sympathetic to Ron. There is no 

Abhinandan: other trigger to tears other than self-indulgence. It is that simple, no matter who does it. I agree with 

Rajyasree: you, but between the two of us, when someone cries in front of me.

I just say, just stop it. You feel so bad for the person that you start. Okay, wait, wait. This movie moved me to tears multiple times as I completely related to her struggles and a lot of the issues that came up in her [01:00:00] life scared me as I am in a similar pace place in life. I really wanted to see them overcome stuff and be happy, but they had to waste so much time and precious ears and stay in so much pain before they could find their joy.

It broke my heart also. Hi Mr. Ri. Much love to you both. Hi. I just wanna tell you, if you have a younger, uh, male partner, I'm very. Please for you because younger boys are quite sweet and all. I'm just saying this was my love, uh, advice. 

Abhinandan: So taking a cue from BA's book, she said, but 

Rajyasree: I'm gonna write. So, you know, sand told me my friend Sand, who's an editor and who I, you can say my 

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Rajyasree: half truth, half truth.

He said, you dunno. Which is fact. Which is fiction. True. So my says is half truths are very good and I can write volume upon volumes of 

Abhinandan: it. Lovely. So there is, uh, one email left by Rushi. It's 204 words. We will read it next time Rushi, because it's [01:01:00] longer than one 50 words. Yeah. And we have run out of time today, but uh, we have a lot of good recommendations, which I hope we can.

Get done. 

Rajyasree: We, let's not say Ry has got done one day, 

Abhinandan: but just reminding you, we are running a 26% discount to match the 26% rise in ad revenue rates by the government for print media. We will match that by 26% drop in our rates. That's ish. And what we say 

Rajyasree: it's also 26% because 26 is my age to match that. And it's also a iq.

But on that note, we are also gonna, this is the affection with which defense inside it's only affection. No. We are gonna review Paul Thomas Anderson's uh, film is finally up on that Are the Leonardo DiCaprio. 

Abhinandan: The hack after 

Rajyasree: another. The

Abhinandan: only, only one. After laptop [01:02:00] bat, you just go 

Rajyasree: outside and sit down and start any work. 

Abhinandan: Make up your mic charger. She the comes, 

Rajyasree: you say one second.

Whatever you want to watch, sir. You should involve them. Maybe they want to talk about pop culture, but we will be back in two weeks time. Alright? And in another two weeks after that, it's our 400th episode. 

Abhinandan: Yeah. So we should do something. We figure out what 400 

Rajyasree: divided by 52 is 

Abhinandan: approximately three point something 

Rajyasree: three.

Three fives up. What are you saying? Four point something. Four point. I don't know. Four years is a long time. Eight years niku, because we, 

Abhinandan: anyway. No, no, but I'm saying why we're doing this calculation. Thank you for joining us. Thank you to a wonderful sound, recordist Anil. [01:03:00] Thank you to a wonderful producer, Pali.

Thank you Mr. Sen. 

Rajyasree: Thank you, Mr. 

Abhinandan: And it's a wrap. 

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