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Aarushi Talwar Case: Parent Trap

"Until we find the real killers, there is no closure for us.” In conversation with Rajesh and Nupur Talwar.

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Aarushi Talwar was on the cusp of turning 14, when she was killed in a murder that continues to grip media attention five years later.

Days before a CBI court in Ghaziabad is to announce its verdict on the controversial murder case (The CBI court will announce its verdict on November 25, 2013), Dr Rajesh and Dr Nupur Talwar, who are the prime accused for the murder of their daughter, find solace in relating anecdotes from her life and looking desperately for some meaning in what they have been subjected to over the past five years.

A few days before the fateful night in April, 2008, when she and the family’s middle-aged housekeeper Hemraj Banjade were murdered in their Noida home, she had been reading her father’s book on the condition of women in Iraq. “How fortunate we are to live in a democracy”, said her father to Aarushi as they discussed the book.

“And this is how a democracy treats you”, says the 48-year-old Rajesh Talwar, sitting under a large framed portrait of Aarushi in the living room of their apartment on Aurobindo Marg in Delhi where they moved in a year after her death. For Rajesh and Nupur, charged for the murder of their own daughter by the CBI, the country’s premier internal investigative agency, there is life before Aarushi and life after Aarushi – and it doesn’t really feel like it belongs to the same set of people. “We had the perfect life, full of happiness and laughter”, says Nupur, 47. “And then after Aarushi, it’s like the thread of our lives has gone unravelling – it’s all just downhill from there. It seems surreal.”

Their living room in fact has several other large framed photos of Aarushi at different ages. “People would remark on Aarushi’s pretty looks, and I would tell Nupur, let’s put some teeka on her to ward off the evil eye”, says Rajesh. There also hangs a large painting copied from Aarushi’s photograph published in the newspapers – there is gentleness and peace in the painting. The Talwars don’t know who made it. “Someone left a package at our doorstep when we were out; it was this painting. Out of all those people out there who judge us and hate us based on what the police and media have said, there are still a few good souls who care about what we’re going through”, says Nupur.

Rajesh and Nupur met at Maulana Azad Medical College in Delhi and married in 1990. Aarushi was born four years later. Rajesh had no interest outside of his work and Nupur was happy to balance her career as an orthodontist with childcare duties once Aarushi was born. In a sense, their after-work life revolved around her activities. “On Saturdays, Rajesh would never work after lunch. He’d take Aarushi to the movies, for shopping, for playing something somewhere”, says Nupur. “We took a conscious decision to have only one child and give her the best of what we’d got. Aarushi was our biggest achievement”, adds Rajesh. “She was my life. After her, my life is finished.”

There is the grief of losing one’s child in a horrific way, and then there’s the grief of being accused of it. After a chaotic few days of disorganised investigation, botched evidence, uncontrolled public access to the murder site and a cremation dictated by the elders in the family, Rajesh was arrested for his daughter’s murder. “The Noida police told us, ‘Don’t speak to the media’, so we didn’t. But then a week later when they came to arrest me, we realised the media had blindly believed what the police said, without hearing our side of the story”, says Rajesh.

The tale only got murkier and murkier. Rajesh spent two months in prison before getting bail. Nupur spent five. The Uttar Pradesh police, led by Meerut Zone’s Inspector General Gurdarshan Singh, held a hasty press conference to announce that Rajesh Talwar had been arrested for killing his daughter as she had found out he had been having an affair. “(Rajesh) found Aarushi and Hemraj in an objectionable, though not compromising, position. He killed her in a fit of rage even though he is as characterless as his daughter was”, said IG Singh. This last judgment appeared to have been reached because the child was active on social networking sites and used a cellphone.

A major part of the problem the Talwars faced was in the wide gulf in perception between the modern and the conservative Indias that coexist uneasily. “Aarushi had been reading Chetan Bhagat’s The 3 Mistakes of My Life on the night of her murder. I told the police to take it with them in case they could use it for fingerprinting purposes or whatever. They found the title very suggestive and gave each other looks, asking me if it meant she had made three mistakes”, says Rajesh.

“Aarushi had a sleepover planned for her 14th birthday on May 24”, adds Nupur. “But when I mentioned this to the CBI officer assigned to the case, he was scandalised. ‘What’s a sleepover? What do they do? Are there any adults?’ What can I tell him? That the girls put on music and dance crazily and raid the fridge while we wait for them to fall asleep?” In the old world of the UP police and the CBI, there is no room for Orkut, Facebook, endless phone conversations and teenage sleepovers. It seems that anyone who goes there is suspect.

While the authorities played their part in creating this image of a murderer father, an extramarital affair and their “characterless” daughter, the media was equally quick to catch on. “It’s all about TRPs”, says Rajesh vehemently, sharing that his lawyer was offered Rs 2 lakh by a reporter for an exclusive interview with the Talwars – to be televised no doubt with much advertising. “Even when the first CBI team handling the case (led by Arun Kumar) got evidence that Krishna (a former employee at Rajesh’s dental clinic and Hemraj’s friend) and two others were responsible for the murder, the media only sought to highlight the UP police’s theories of the ‘monster parents’”, he says, referring to reports including an article and tweet by columnist Shobhaa De at the time. “She (De) actually suggested that Aarushi was not our biological child!” he says. “The doctor at Ganga Ram hospital who had delivered her called us up the day the article was published and asked, ‘Eh ki (Punjabi for ‘What is this’)? I have delivered her, I know whose daughter she is’, she said. But no one checked the truth before jumping to such conclusions.” he says.

In 2010, the CBI closed the case due to lack of conclusive evidence, but the Talwars insisted they continue with their investigation and find the murderer. A new Lucknow-based team led by AGL Kaul was assigned to the case, but instead of pursuing the previous team’s theories they reverted to the UP police’s version of the story and appeared hell-bent on proving that it was the Talwars who were the killers. Forensic experts changed their testimonials, a pillow cover with Hemraj’s blood found in Krishna’s bedroom – something that in any other circumstance would have been enough to clinch the burden of guilt – was written off as a typing error, crude comments were made in court to explain the enlarged penis on Hemraj’s corpse and new theories of a sexually active teenager were floated in the media.

And while the investigation was going on its own skewed path to nowhere, all attempts by the Talwars for better efforts to find the murderer fell on deaf judicial ears. Their pleas to the CBI to have a whisky bottle found at the scene with Aarushi’s blood on it sent to an FBI-approved lab in the US for testing were written off. Their appeal for 13 witnesses, including those listed by the CBI themselves, to be interrogated in court was turned down. Aarushi’s and Hemraj’s missing cellphones led to a dead-end, with the CBI showing no interest in further investigation.

Even the biggest media houses insisted on taking only the CBI’s point of view without checking facts for themselves. A January 2011 cover story published by India Today suggested that the Talwars had manipulated the crime scene and were feigning ignorance: “The parents of Aarushi, Nupur and Rajesh Talwar, seem to have slept through an incredible amount of activity in their small flat. They claimed their bedroom door was shut and the air-conditioner turned on.” The story had accompanying images of the child’s dead body – pictures that were police property and should not have been published at all. An advocate filed a PIL against the sensationalist media coverage but the case did not lead to any conclusive outcome.

“All ‘media ethics’ went flying out of the window when it came to Aarushi”, says Nupur. “In other cases (such as the December 2012 gang-rape), they were all very ethical about not using the victim’s name or pictures. In our case, no such discretion was followed. On the contrary, there was blatant character assassination on all fronts”, she says, adding that what pains her the most is the way the police and media stripped her daughter of all dignity. It only added to growing animosity and public anger against the parents. So much so that Rajesh was attacked with a meat cleaver by a crazed man outside court.

But there was also support from unexpected quarters. A 14-page chapter in Patrick French’s book India: A Portrait was dedicated to Aarushi’s case, one of the first few to present the Talwars’ side of the story. The Toronto Star carried an article by Nupur’s cousin, supporting the family. Tehelka ran a large cover story in June this year in which senior journalist Shoma Chaudhary went into every file and sentence that was part of the case and declared the Talwars’ situation to be “Kafkaesque”. Top lawyers represented the Talwars in court pro bono. Family chipped in with finances since their dental practice was down to negligible, having to scurry between courts across states. Old patients stoically stood by them. Neighbours offered condolences and expressed shock.

“It is only by the grace of these people that we are still here and able to have this conversation”, says Nupur. “That, and our complete faith in God.” The Talwars took to prayer and studying the Bhagwad Gita, looking for meaning in their excruciating experiences. “People say there’s something to learn from all this – endurance, patience, something. But I can’t see the learning or meaning in any of this”, says Nupur. “We were a normal, happy family one day, and then overnight, it’s become a living hell.”

Rajesh credits his wife for being the rock in the relationship. “She gives me strength, even when I become weak and falter.” Nupur, on her part, says it’s all for Aarushi. “I just remind myself of her and that is enough to give me the courage to push through all this, without losing our sanity or breaking down.”

What will they do if the court rules in their favour? “We’ll continue to seek the truth”, asserts Rajesh. “Until we find the real killers, there is no closure for us.”

What if the court rules against them? They both shrug, their lips tight in determination. Nupur responds after a pause, as if the answer is obvious, “We will keep fighting. Even if the whole world is against us, we have the truth on our side. That’s what keeps us going.”

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  • V. Ramaswamy

    I have read Shoma Choudhary’s Tehelka article. She complains that CBI did not produce a lot of evidence, which was in their possession like the pillow cover of Hemraj etc. I am sure there were other evidences that would corroborate the innocence of Talwars. But when the CBI court ordered that Talwars be tried based on CBI’s closure report, obviously those evidences that do not suit their own case would not be presented in court. It is upto the defendants to bring it up in their arguments. I suppose thats what was done too. Shoma’s article was very amateurish with childish arguments.

    • Vidhya Kumar

      Shoma’s article dug into the facts of the case – which facts of hers do you dispute? This trial has been a sad spectacle. If you want to be shocked and saddened, I recommend reading Avirook Sen’s coverage of the trial – it is complete and penetrating, and supports what Shoma and others have written.

      • Samir Thapa

        Come on Vidhya, please.

        • Agyaat

          Dude, Internet-popular Nepali dude, I thought you retired your efforts a year ago. Damn! You’re back as hell !! LOL !! You and BenguluruHuduga should share drinks man!! ROFL!!

          • dayle

            Samir and benfgaluru-pee-brain should meet in a room and do the sort of shameful manly stuff…..

      • BenguluruHuduga

        Read the judgement report no media based reports. Come up with logical analysis on what the judge has done as to why he is wrong. You will be pleasantly surprised.

        • Agyaat

          You’re with a mental of ‘control state’. You don’t like an independent media. You go around the Internet accusing people of having your attributes, while it’s clear they don’t. You hate people who consume, welcome, deserve, entertain, and support, an independent media. Quite some screwed up item you are!

    • Rey

      Shoma’s article was thorough and well researched. It is an example of how a journalistic piece should unlike all the remaining articles in popular media.

      • BenguluruHuduga

        same Shoma who mis-reported on tehelka nut ? How does one lend credibility to her when she picks and chooses what she reports.

        • Agyaat

          You’re now going to say she’ll only tell the wrong time of the day. Idiot.

        • dayle

          lick the hair of my balls

    • Reena

      Well yeah, you are right in that the evidences would not be presented by CBI. But the problem is that when the Talwars tried to include those in their arguments, either the evidences were completely written off with comments like “it was a typing error” or the request itself was denied. Shoma’s article was excellent in pointing these out.

    • guest

      OMG! Shoma Chaudhury knows law and investigation procedure in such great details!! Then how in present Tehelka employee alleged rape case, she is so ignorent about law??

  • guest

    Crap. The Indian upper middle class out to protect their own.

    • BenguluruHuduga

      yeah, when upper middle class commits crimes, they are on their own !

      • dayle

        you know youre a degraded soul right?

        • BenguluruHuduga

          ah, not more than you are. you seem intend to side with criminals. and btw, no criminals are guilty in their own words, a smart lawyer f***** them.

          • dayle

            explain to me how the judge started his whole tirade with ‘aarushi and hemraj were having an affair and were in the same room’ without any proof…then you open youre mouth and say they were criminals…or else you know what I told you to do…..lick my balls

          • dayle

            when all proof points to the servants, krishna and shambhu how are the talwars criminals?

          • Agyaat

            ” btw, no criminals are guilty in their own words,”

            That’s how your CBI and the ‘system’ is a holy cow in your eyes, as of course in their own eyes as well.

    • dayle

      explain how the judge started his whole report with the assumption that ‘aarushi and hemraj had an affair and were in the same room’ witthout any proof?…either explain it or lick my balls

    • dayle

      yup and to kick murderers like you

  • blackpot

    Funny that an author cribbing about biased reporting does not acknowledge the facts opposing her point of view either.

  • Vidhya Kumar

    I feel the Talwar’s sense of despair, yet they still seem to have hope. The CBI case is full of holes, there’s no motive, no murder weapon, no physical evidence against the parents. Witnesses have said ridiculous things, evidence seals have been tampered with – “Kafka-esque” is one way to put it, illegal is another. Will the CBI and its lying witnesses be held to account? I doubt it, which is why they so brazenly play fast and loose with the law.

    • jumbare

      from the CBI point of view and the courts point of view….there is no evidence whatsoever…but the fingers point out to the parents 1. in arushis room blood is splashed on to the ceiling…how come the parents in the next room could not hear any sound/screams/kicking noises/etc
      2. how come the parents room router was working goes on to say that they were not sleeping but awake … yet to confirm who was using the compter
      3. how come hemrajs body is found on the terrace?
      4. how come hemraj and arushis necks were slit and it is said it is a professional who is well versed in medical field could do it with a instrument used to make the slit
      5. why was the cremation/evidence done in a haste….why was all this not videoed…..

      • Anoop Anirudhan
        • Suzy

          Making a case of murder only on circumstantial evidence is unheard of. Shouldn’t there be a presumption of innocence. It is this traditional middle class India which is so quick to jump to conclusions and go on a witch hunt when they see people different from the norm. Shameful developments.

          • BenguluruHuduga

            No. Circumstance based trials happen all over the world,including US and other Western countries. Circumstance never lie. Each individual link that leads up to the circumstance has to be proved. The judge has to be 200% sure in such cases that there is no other hypothesis possible in circumstance based trial.

            Such trials actually favor the accused since even 0.1% of doubt will fail the prosecution.

          • dayle

            @BenguluruHuduga:disqus lick my balls you pervert

          • Samir Thapa

            Talwar’s are in hairy business we know that ….. :-))

          • dayle

            oh wow…join the club you nepali dick sucker!!!…do what youre mom taught you

        • Samir Thapa

          Tarun Tejpal has been arrested on rape charges and Shoma has been answering to magistrates on how she was protecting Tarun. The hypocrisy in Tehelka is revealed. This very article clearly shows that it is a paid article. This article is a joke, plain and simple.

          • Agyaat

            Your comment reads like … ” if the parents divorce, their children are imaginary hence forth”.

          • Samir Thapa

            I have read this article and have always wondered how could Shoma allow this article to be published as it was obviously flawed. Never thought that Tehelka could undertake the paid journalism, such was their public image, that they would stand for truth and nothing less. Now their hypocrisy is revealed and Tarun is exposed as a rapist and molester. Shoma’s feminism was a facade and her hypocrisy is exposed. To me this explains why they were supporting Talwars … Birds of same feather flock together.

          • dayle

            why dont you lick my balls?

          • Agyaat

            ” Birds of same feather flock together.”

            That’s about you, Mr. Benguluru, the CBI, the idiot judge, your favourite ‘system’ and all.

          • Samir Thapa

            Agyaat will that do that favour to you ….

          • dayle

            wow..you seem to really like getting down on a man’s dick?….is that why you killed aarushi?…coz you don’t like women? …you misogynist……hmmm why would you kill hemraj too?..beats me

          • Samir Thapa

            :-) LOL

          • dayle

            to someone who doesn’t know how it works, agyaat has guts..not like you..you coward who runs to nepal after committing a murder…youre only worth licking my balls

          • Agyaat

            Chup be gandhe bachche. Tere se jo kaha gaya hai woh tu kar. Don’t try to escape your duties.
            You’re escapist, your CBI is escapist, your Noida police is escapist. Your judge is super great at escaping the presence of hard clues like the Krishna pillow cover and the lack of Hemraj’s signs in Aarushi’s room. Nobody has the darn humility to admit to the truth of how incompetent they are.

          • Samir Thapa

            Ab Chup ho ja … gala kharab ho jayega. By shouting or name calling you cannot do anything , unfortunately that is a reality. Calling everybody incompetent will not get you anything. You can do nothing that will benefit Talwar.

          • Agyaat

            ” By shouting or name calling you cannot do anything ”

            Your CBI has disproved this already, by calling the Talwars all sorts of names and influencing the public into believing they are criminals.

          • dayle

            suck my dick nepali fag…

          • dayle

            youre the pro at it yaar/// cock sucking

          • tintin

            anything that is away from your line of thinking is a paid article

          • Samir Thapa

            I have to agree that I do like your replies. Maybe I am wrong, agreed.

          • dayle

            this nepali fag is the real killer, Samir cock-sucker Thapa

      • dayle

        (1)the parents were exhausted and deserved rest. They were probably deep sleepers. the first cbi team rightly proved that with the AC on in the talwars room, even if you slept in their room at night, you wouldnt have heard a dinosaur roaring in the next room. Come on, think, how many times have you just gone to sleep deeply after just 5 minutes of shutting your eyes. If you are a light sleeper, then yes you will wake up, but if you are a deep sleeper, then you only wake up at the time youre body is conditioned to get up..
        (2) If a router is on, it doesnt mean someone is using the internet…do you even have a comp at home?….they had a wireless setup at home ok..if you dont know what that means, then go back to the stone age…in short this point about the router is childish for those of you who have wireless internet at home!!
        (3) hemraj was found murdered on the terrace coz krishna and shambhu murdered him for not being party to coitus with aarushi,the two had to get rid of hemraj after they murdered aarushi since he would squeal if presented to court.
        (4)that bit about a professional who is well versed in blah blah was done by the second CBI team to implicate Rajesh Talwar…the first cbi team rightly pointed out that a khukri was used to murder aarushi and hemraj. Remember, the golf club was in hemraj’s room, so when krishna, shambhu(hemraj’s friends) saw this and were too drunk and wanted to have coitus with aarushi when she came out of her room, they harrased her, and on being unsuccessful, murdered her
        (5) do you have a webcam all over your house? lol wat videos are you talking about…its obvious that krishna and shambhu were invited by hemraj for a night of fun at around 12:30 am

        • Samir Thapa

          he parents were exhausted and deserved rest.
          :-)

          • Agyaat

            Goddamn, here we are again deciding that everything they do is a symptom of their guilt. They blink it’s a symptom of guilt, they don’t its a symptom of their guilt.

          • Samir Thapa

            Me think it is the idiots who are trying to protect the murderers. These idiots think that because the UP police pointed fingers at Talwars they were idiots, the CBI nailed the Talwars so they became a bunch of idiots in her eyes, and the learned Judge convicted a murderer he too became an idiot in their eyes.

            For God sake, please have mercy on us. You may as well declare the High Court judges and Supreme Court judges idiots in advance because the Talwars have left a wealth of circumstantial evidences and it is more than likely that their conviction will be upheld.

          • dayle

            you still dont get it, do you?…circumstantial evidence that points to some other direction isnt means for convicting innocent family people…its appalling when you consider that the CBI just did it to protect its A$$

          • Samir Thapa

            It is you who don’t get it. By no means Talwars are innocent. They are daughter killers, do you get it. They should have been in prison five years ago …. Do you get it you dumbass?

          • dayle

            why should they be when theres no motive?…how can you say that they should be convicted you moron?….just on circumstantial evidence?…suck my dick…you have not answered my question nor has the dickhead of a judge…why did he base his whole report on the assumption that “Hemraj and Aarush had an affair and Hemraj was in Aarushi’s room” without any proof?…without proving this, I’m sorry, but the judiciary has no right to say that the Talwars are daughter killers nor nepali killers…have you no sense maan?..from when I have been asking you about the baseless assumption in the report…and youve been avoiding with total dickhead like responses “Ask the judge”….yeah coz youre busy sucking cocks na nepali fag?

          • dayle

            suck my dick and the hair around it you fag

          • Agyaat

            Idiots form their opinion based on a subset of the entire facts available, and call that the complete truth. That’s what the entire fold of Talwar-guilt has done. What’s new? Phew.

          • dayle

            there is no set human behaviour for any event….you CANNOT generalise human behaviour,…when a person dear to you has been murdered by a nepali fag like you…the first reaction of parents won’t be to go and hug, like you see in bollywood movies…but you will be shell shocked, almost numb…you would probably bite youre lips or your gum, but you wont feel it…you wont know or believe how such a gruesome deed had been done…..all that crying and hugging is just bollywood-crap

          • Samir Thapa

            :-)

    • BenguluruHuduga

      Judge takes into account. When cases go to trial, the judge weighs the arguments made by prosecution and defense.

      The judge even discards the ones that don’t fall in accordance with law. This is a circumstance based trial. The judge has linked a chain of circumstances to a hypothesis. Each circumstance in link has to be proved with facts. Read the report and understand section 106 of the law.

      • dayle

        @BenguluruHuduga:disqus lick the sugar of my hairy balls

      • Samir Thapa

        Nobody could have said better than you. Absolutely true.

        • dayle

          lick the hair off my balls you fag

          • Samir Thapa

            [ Agyaat --> dayle • 14 hours ago −

            h's in denial..this twat named Samir thapa

            dayle --> Samir Thapa • 24 minutes ago −

            wake up killer,,,,suck my dick,,,its morning now ]

            Talwar’s Hairy Business:

            Something is mysterious about the near and dear of Talwars. They are obsessed with their private parts. dayle offers his ‘hairy balls’ and Agyaat offers her ‘silky smooth & hairy whatnot’ to anyone who disagrees with their opinion.Why are they so obsessed with private parts?

            We know that Hemraj died when he was also exploring the ‘silky smooth & hairy whatnot’ that got him killed by Rajesh. We also know that Talwar’s dear friend Tarun Tejpal is in custody because he was also getting the feel of the ‘silky smooth & hairy whatnot’ in the elevator. We know that somebody cleaned the private parts of Aarushi.

            My main concern is that there could be a prison riot, if Rajesh & Nupur offer the similar hairy services in prison to anyone who disagrees with them. I mean the riot to have the free services. :-)

            Please note that I suspected that they will delete their comment so I have captured their comments for everybody to see …

          • dayle

            I will not delete my comments, since ppl like you only suck balls each and every day..why the f will I delete my comments?…nepali killer

      • dayle

        there have been innumerable cases where reports and investigations have led to wrongful convictons…this is the most recent one

        • Samir Thapa

          Every convicted person says that he is innocent. Talwars are repeating it. No issues …

          • Agyaat

            Yeah, you kind of live in a unique world where judgements are nor reversed, and convictions can’t ever err. Nonsense.

          • dayle

            yea, then why is there a cbi report without a base for its ‘assumptions’?….

          • Samir Thapa

            FYI there are no assumptions in the CBI closure report …. … It is based on a real, honest and fair investigation that stated facts as they saw it. They did not go for a witch hunt, they could very well have charged Dinesh Talwar as well, but did not do witch hunt. That is the reason why it will stand in any court. It has a wealth of evidences, the Judge has already noted.

            If you don’t believe me, wait for the High court judgement.

          • dayle

            BS…what evidence?…its a comic strip…if it were evidence, there would be a sequence of events, a clear motive…the mettle of the High Court is going to be tested here as well, whether it is merely a puppet of the CBI or will they conduct a thorough investigation right from the start…as things stand in India and with nepali fags like you around, credibility of the judicial system is at stake here

          • Agyaat

            ” It is based on a real, honest and fair investigation ”

            ROFL LOLOLOLOL !!!

            It is based on the psychic master piece of MS Dahiya of CFSL Gandhinagar, the repeated edits and additions to the Aarushi PM report by your favourite Dohre, etc etc.

          • Harpreet Singh

            THAPA HELPING THAPA

          • dayle

            blah blah…suck my dick you nepali disgusting fag….india should ban scumbags like you who enter the country..its great that the police men bashed you up in the jail, you belong to that kinda place and you deserve that sort of treatment nepali murderer

      • Samir Thapa

        Talwars are in hairy business we know that … :-))

        • dayle

          you are in the ball-licking business you nepali fag…do your work…

    • Samir Thapa

      Come on Vidhya, please. Do you want a Supreme court judgement to convince you? In time we will have that too. The bitter truth is that “nobody could have done it except the parents”. The police said so, the CBI investigators said so, the Session judge said so.

      • Agyaat

        You get some thing? A judgement is the judge’s opinion. Not an identification of truth.

        “”nobody could have done it except the parents”. The police said so, the CBI investigators said so, the Session judge said so.”

        Idiots saying so doesn’t make it true, it only makes the lie more vocal. This itself is more of an indicator of how the Talwars were convicted without a trial – by ‘saying so’ and making others ‘believe so’.

        • Samir Thapa

          So in your opinion everybody … the police, CBI investigators, the Judges are idiots. Read the judgement and closure report with an independent mind and only then will you grasp it. It is not “saying so” or “believing so”, it is more of a ” analyzing so” and “understanding so”.

          • Agyaat

            The judgement is good to be made the official bajji-pakoda paper of the court canteen. Yeah, the cops, the CBI, particularly the 2nd team, and this sessions judge, are idiots. And then, you talk of the closure report, which is very secular in its essay of accusing the Talwars by all means, and very edited about the first CBI team’s findings. Anyone with an independent mind or even lack of mind will clearly see that it works with a prejudice of the Talwar parents’ guilt. It’s obvious that you didn’t approach these documents with a desire for the truth.

          • Samir Thapa

            Why would anyone prejudice Talwars? To me they appear as an ordinary middle aged, middle class professionals, who made a split second wrong decision and for which they will repent for the rest of their lives. Calling everybody idiots will not benefit Talwars. Unfortunately the parents and Aarushi are in the opposite side. One has to choose between “Justice for Aarushi” versus “Protecting the parents”. One has to choose the truth. The truth is that the parents did it and the judge gave an honest verdict. Satya mewa jayate !!!

          • Agyaat

            “Why would anyone prejudice Talwars? ” is an incorrect question.

            The question is whether there is evidence to believe there is prejudice. Of course, since the day zero, there has been prejudice even owing to the circumstances of the case making them be looked with suspicion. One would expect investigations to clear up questions. They seemed to give answers, until the investigators faltered, decided to falter, and opted prejudice over clear evidence. In all that was done by the first CBI team, the Talwars were emerging innocent with each scientific test they conducted, and continued to emerge innocent even when the second CBI team conducted scientific tests.

            The question is ‘what does CBI lose if they victimize small fish like one family to cover up their own incompetence?’ Included in this is their ‘gain’ of salvaging their image after their evident inability to solve the case, and the broader ‘message’ that ‘action would be taken’, just or unjust, to pander to sections of the gallery. Too many officials of the ‘system’ face action at many levels for their botch up. Is it too far fetched to imagine that they’re more occupied with saving their own skins and the livelihoods of their own families?

            ” The truth is that the parents did it and the judge gave an honest verdict. Satya mewa jayate !!!”

            Proof please. Pronouncements like that of the judge, or the prejudice of the CBI won’t cut it.

          • Samir Thapa

            What evidence is there that the Talwars were discriminated or prejudiced? In my humble opinion there is none, whatsoever. There is no cover up for anybody. Every guilty person says that he has been prejudiced against after the judgement goes against him. You want proof – – – There are 26 main points that was considered by the Judge and those points are based on evidences. The most important thing was justice for Aarushi and it has been delivered.

          • Agyaat

            Only if you’ve chosen to be blind would you be able to say that they were not discriminated against and prejudiced against.

            “Every guilty person says that he has been prejudiced against after the judgement goes against him”

            Well, they have been facing prejudice from day zero of this case, not after the judgement went against them five years after, and they have been raising their voice right since then. Sections of the media picked it up late when they themselves could see that the Talwars were actually innocent, reasonably significantly after their objection to the closure of the case by the CBI, because they wanted the truth out and the actual killer to face the law.

            Also, when you say that the Talwars are hiding their guilt, why of all would you begin to view the CBI as a sacred cow? You seriously have no idea what kind of wolves they are out there in the system.

            You say 26 points. Well, I already shared my view about the judgement, that it is fit for being the official pakoda-bajji container in the court canteen.

            Based on evidences? I mean, do you even logic? How could the judge place Hemraj in Aarushi’s room when there’s no evidence to that? Nonsense.

          • Samir Thapa

            “How could the judge place Hemraj in Aarushi’s room when there’s no evidence to that?”

            In Aarushi’s room there was a lot of Aarushi’s blood splashed on wall but no blood on the floor. There was no blood of Aarushi on floor and how is this possible. This is only possible if parents got the floor cleaned very well. My thinking is that, when they cleaned the floor they removed Hemraj’s DNA as well. This is my thought and it is possible that the Judge may have thought it as well and placed Hemraj in the room.

          • Agyaat

            You’ve totally lost it man. What kind of half witted theory is this of yours?!!! LOL !!

          • Samir Thapa

            You may call it whatever, Talwars had enough time to destroy every direct evidence and they did it. It is their bad luck that the Judge saw through it …… LOL

          • Agyaat

            It’s their bad luck that the judge was an idiot who couldn’t see through his head right.

            Also, how does this judge of yours end up placing Hemraj in Aarushi’s room, when there’s zero evidence of his existence in Aarushi’s room? No prints, no blood, no hair, no skin, nothing. The entire theory and the judge’s sexual fantasy of things is evidently impossible, yet here we are with the unscientific and hence a damned religious cult document called the judgement, and its devout followers!!

          • Samir Thapa

            So what would you say if Supreme Court held Talwars guilty? Will that too be his opinion … LOL

          • Agyaat

            Of course, it is the judge’s opinion of the case that he pronounces as his judgement, which ever court it be, and be it you or be it other individuals out there, this is what applies. What else can it ever be for you, if it isn’t the judge’s opinion? Give yourself the answers. Is it some piece of magical ‘truth’ sent down into the judge’s head which lesser people can’t handle? What is it? LOL !!!

          • dayle

            arent you a nepali who is hell bent on seeing that the Talwars are held guilty…get outta our country…..you disgust us with your robberies and murders

          • tintin

            and what would you say if the high court finds them not guilty

          • Samir Thapa

            Then I would like to hear what the Supreme Court says ..
            I would like to caution you, with KK Gautam & Dr. Dohre as witnesses, there is not an iota of chance for Talwars. Somebody should give a reality check to Talwars …

            In a high profile case like this, they cannot manipulate the system. Without manipulating the system, they cannot win. They cannot win because they have indeed committed the murder. The need to realize this.

          • tintin

            That is the cbi with so many holes in there theory which they admit would like to take it to SC.

          • Agyaat

            The system is manipulating the case. The Talwars aren’t. And due to that, they are likely to not win.

            Jack ass witnesses shall be jack asses. One says that a day has 12 hrs, has numerous edits and additions to his opinion, and the other is out on town being a sipaahi of the Noida police. All they effectively lead to is the same evidence less theory of Hemraj being in Aarushi’s room. They can get anyone and everyone to scream accusations loudly, paint the town with the Talwar guilt theory, but they can’t prove what they accuse.

          • dayle

            the second CBI team had 5 years to
            (a) trash out whatever evidence was made available to them by the first CBI team
            (b) feed the media with salacious news like ‘hemraj and aarushee were having an affair’
            (c) spread other sensational news items with no base at all
            (d) trash the bloody pillow evidence….that ‘krishna was found to possess a pillow with hemraj’s blood on it’
            (e) dismissed the evidence of the bloody khukri found in krishna’s room and later explain the blood on the khukri as that of an ostrich…damn!!

          • Agyaat

            .

            While carefully trashing valid pieces of evidence, they will even fabricate evidences, like they did with Bharti Mandal testimony, the golf clubs, and the Krishna pillow cover ‘typo’. Soon enough we’ll have a scalpel with Dr. Rajesh Talwar’s finger prints emerge out of the ‘CBI Miracle Studio’.

            All the mean while, they will employ carpet bombing of ‘leak’s and selective reports of their ‘steno-journalists’ to publicly maintain the Talwar-guilt theory.

            One of the more significant howlers most people aren’t turning attention to is how ever did the 1st CBI team buy into the ‘unreliability’ of Krishna’s testimony, when it’s obvious that he’ll try to deflect investigations by lying over and over? They just said that Krishna is changing testimony like the chamaleon, so we can’t rely on it, and set him free !!!

          • tintin

            And where did they hide the evidence ..pray tell me. The shoe print size 8 found on the terrace was found it did no belong to Rajesh then who did it belong to

          • Samir Thapa

            What you are trying to point out is that there was footprint that could not have been Rajesh’s so there is a reasonable doubt. There are so many very strong evidences that points to parents that this footprint does not carry enough weight. There is no evidence that points to their innocence. . Arguments like, we were sleeping, the visitors destroyed the evidences & it was police’s responsibility, KK Gautam by his sixth sense found the body etc does not carry any weight. Especially when KK Gautam and Dr. Dohre provide are witnesses against their version.

          • tintin

            The sound testing which was done at talwar’ residence in the presence of doctors from AIIMS and team from CFL it was concluded that it was possible for rajesh and nupur not to hear anything even if they were awake…and the cbi did not put that in there closure report…the talwars had to approach the high court for cbi to hand them the report. If the cbi is so confident of its case why would it like to hide the report. My dear friend it is the duty of the police to protect the evidence ..and if it is destroyed why blame talwars for it. Hemrajs wife lives in a smal village in nepal. Please understand that she is illiterate and when told talwars are guilty she tanks indian court for justice

          • Agyaat

            “no evidence that points to their innocence.”

            Well, depends on your prejudice or lack of it.

          • Samir Thapa

            I missed the most fantastic part of your statement: “You get some thing? A judgement is the judge’s opinion. Not an identification of truth …..”

            You are amazing … LOL …

            This judge’s opinion could have got Rajesh & Nupur hanged. Do you realize the weight of a Judge’s judgement. A judge’s judgement cannot be just his opinion, if it happens so then it would get struck down in the higher court.

          • Agyaat

            Oh yeah, if a judgement is not a judge’s opinion he forms pertinent to a case, what else is it? Is it some psychic pronouncement happening through the judge? Nonsense. Pack up your shop of defending this silly premise of the Talwar guilt.

          • Samir Thapa

            So what is identification of Truth. A witness under oath would be his opinion, the post mortem doctors report would be his opinion …. even the Indian Penal Code could be an opinion … he he he …. LOL

            You made my day :-)

          • Agyaat

            Of course, they are, if you look at them in such a perspective, to be countable as opinions. And as such, what in the judge’s opinion is the truth identified after studying the case through trial, is what is pronounced as his judgement. What’s apparently off the mark for you? LOL !!

          • dayle

            how much did the CBI hire you for?..for making these statements?

          • dayle

            who respects that judge of yours maan?…i’d pee on his face

          • dayle

            the judge can’t hang anyone unless theres conclusive proof, and not just circumstantial evidence….in this whole case, circumstantial evidence points to the servants Krishna and Shambhu who have fled India and returned to nepal, perhaps that is where people like you are..mr nepali frikkin thapa…you murderer, convict….how can the judge just vehemently play down the obvious friendly entry of one of your own, Krishna and Shambhu, perhaps you are one of them

          • dayle

            from now on, please address mr Samir Thapa as Mr. murderer…

          • Samir Thapa

            It is called destroying of evidences and dressing up of the crime scene, Sweetheart! ;-)

          • Agyaat

            Dude, your theories really make me ROFL !! You can’t cheat the UV light testing for wiped out blood which the CBI did. Blood gets soaked or deposited into the pores of the surface and any amount of cleaning, leave alone that of within 6 hours, can’t help it.

          • dayle

            thats called framing an innocent family nepali fag

          • dayle

            y dont you do youre duty and lick my dick?

          • dayle

            aarushi was killed by krishna and shambhu, and so was hemraj for opposing to coitus with aarushi

          • dayle

            explain this base of the whole hypothesis of the report : ‘that aarushi and hemraj were having an affair and were in the same room’…isnt that wrong and salacious and prejudiced?

          • dayle

            those 26 points are a joke in the history of mankind

          • dayle

            with no truth nor proof

          • Samir Thapa

            :-)

          • dayle

            there is no proof and the report makes no sense, when there is no base to it

          • dayle

            “To me they appear as an ordinary middle aged, middle class professionals, who made a split second wrong decision and for which they will repent for the rest of their lives”…what wrong decision did they make?…state it and I will challenge you with an appropriate response ….youre dumb as a nail

          • tintin

            if the parents did it and it was a grave and sudden provocation then why no dna of hemraj or any blood of hemraj in aarushi’s room. According to the prosecution witness the doctor said hemraj was having sex or was in the process of having sex and hence his penis was swollen. this means he was killed in her room on her bed…..then why no dna or blood of hemraj in the room

          • dayle

            and youre peice of paper has put innocent people in jail…it actually is just a flawed hypothesis with no base or foundation..to explain what the foundation is: ‘that aarushi and hemraj were having an affair and were in the same room’ prove this

      • dayle

        yeah the entire kangaroo court said so…waiting for a court that has some integrity…will a real court please stand up?

      • dayle

        Mr murderer aka convict, why do you guest vote yourself everywhere?…you degraded fag of a murderer

    • Samir Thapa

      The responsibility to pass Judgement is of a judge, not ours. He has the experience, the knowledge, the intelligence to separate lies from the truth. He sees and hears the witnesses, reads their facial expressions and body language. He has the first hand access to the evidences provided by the prosecution. He is impartial because he is not related or known to the accused or prosecution. We neither have first hand access to evidences, nor have we seen the witnesses. All we know is what is in public knowledge. So we trust his judgement.

      An impartial judge who is thousands times more qualified than us gives us justice, so who are we to question that. If we don’t believe in him, why do we approach the courts? We have higher courts to appeal but we cannot deny that the honourable Judge has applied his mind and wisdom to arrive at the conclusion. No court will be able to revert this judgement.

      • Agyaat

        Your old fag of a judge has too much perverse sexual fantasy on his head – not experience, knowledge, and what was that? Intelligence? LOL !! That’s some intelligence to infer that Hemraj was in Aarushi’s room, when there’s zero evidence towards it. FYI, it’s called imagination, not intelligence.

      • dayle

        when a judge is biased, who gives a rats a$$ what the report says? nepali murderer

        “All we know is what is in public knowledge” …all that we acttually were told by youre judge was BS…just because you write stuff in bold doesnt give it any credibility, coz the whole cbi report is a flaw based on an assumption that “AARUSHI AND HEMRAJ WERE IN AN AFFAIR AND HEMRAJ WAS IN AARUSHI’S ROOM”

        don’t think that judge’s can’t be influenced, they are human beings and in this case, judge ‘SAZAA LAL’ was clearly influenced by the CBI…hmmm probably thats what he was doing till 2 am in the morning, sucking the CBI’s balls…sounds familiar Samir aka nepali murderer?

      • Vidhya Kumar

        ‘Justice Must Not Only be Done, but Must be Seen to be Done’.
        While we may not be judges, we too possess the ability and intelligence analyze the evidence presented. What we all saw during the trial was errors and irregularities, enough for any critically thinking citizen to question the investigation and court proceedings. There is no motive proven, no physical evidence and no unbroken chain of circumstantial evidence. There was however evidence tampered with – vaginal swabs lost, evidence seals on boxes broken. There were expert witnesses who were found to be wrong (BK Mahapatra), or not credible (Naresh Raj), there was a post mortem doctor who suddenly changed his opinion (with no new information!) only after meeting AGL Kaul and one who made numerous logical errors (MS Dahiya). The testimony of the defence witnesses was seemingly ignored (for example, the fact that the type of blunt injury to Aarushi’s head could NOT have been made by a golf club, or the DNA errors/omissions noted by expert Dr Andre Semikhodskii).

        Your notion that EVERY journalist critical of this case is paid of by the Talwars is backed by evidence only you seem to possess.

        As an Indian, I’m offended that all of this can occur and no one – NO ONE – is held to account. We should be angry when this type of trampling of due process occurs, because while it happens to the Talwars today, it could happen to any of us tomorrow. In fact, regardless of whether you think the Talwars are guilty or not, you should be angry that the authorities have so smugly and brazenly taken liberties with our laws and justice system.

    • Kali Mirch

      Yeda banke peda Kha rahe hai talwars… Y the other killers woud leave hemraj’s body on thé terrace they could hv left it next to arushi. But that will not look what talwars felt.

  • a friend

    i agree with this author and i don’t think anyone posting here knows the facts so should not jump to any conclusions. if you know of the indian political and legal system, most of the times you would like to stay from it than get into it..

    • Julia Dutta

      While the article has been presented as one of the finest I have read in works of investigative journalism, there is that sense of not really knowing where to go from here. Like all people fighting till justice be delivered, the prime accused here, the Talwars too are going the same way. It is perhaps one of the worst case of the “Macbeth Syndrome” I have ever heard of since the Shakespearean play itself, but time will finally tell the truth. It is hard to believe that the Talwars are innocent, because, the gut says otherwise. Cold blooded murder is the order of the day, among khaps in India, where the guilt plays the ‘good’ protagonist, who is always right. At some point, the game of nerves end as new interest ceases to make its presence felt, worldwide, via media.

  • Sudhindra

    A terribly one sided narrative. Please grow up!!!

  • koorkhen

    Whether one sided story or not , a complete failure of an investigation by the CBI. Shows the lack of application to investigate and not surprising to learn about the comment ‘Caged Parrot’

  • Nilmini

    The judge has to do his job. Look for the evidence (including circumstantial) . If it it not there he should deliver a fair verdict. No matter who killed. In the court of law they have to prove the evidence in either way. Its not your life values and gut feelings.

  • Hemant

    A simple fact does not get understood that Talwars pushed to get this case opened, after CBI had closed it, to find the real murderers of their daughter. Yet, they get the blame. How silly can it get? Anyone who has not read Shoma’s report on this case in Tehelka, must read it. It is not just saddening and depressing, but also makes you afraid about how the law can be manipulated and how anyone can be its victim.

  • vm

    Talwars may not have killed their daughter. But one feels that they have secrets. They haven’t told everything. There are skeletons in their cupboard. If they get punished it could be because of this too, though indirectly.

    • dayle

      there are no skeletons , just careers of the noida police which could have been lost, if the cbi had done their duty and nabbed the servants (the noida police would have been assasinated by their superiors and the media for not investigating properly)

  • jumbare

    Law is based on the idiom “It is better and more satisfactory to acquit a thousand guilty persons than to put a single innocent one to death.” so the courts will go into every detail before nailing the culprits…..may justice be done rightly. After the judgement the courts also gives the reason for the judgement….India is a Judicially backed country and so the legal system though slow will be justified and correct.

  • rew

    SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT IT MIGHT JUST BE A PERSON FROM THE FAMILY.EG HIS BROTHER OR SOMEON ELSE , OR HIS DRIVER WHO HAD GONE TO THE NEIGHBOURS TERRACE TWICE THE NEXT DAY, OR MAY BE SOMEONE TRAPPING THE TALWARS FOR PROFESSIONAL REASONS. EG THE DURRANIS. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WOULD gain the maximum professionally . Another arrow of my suspicion goes to the two colleagues of rajesh talwars who discovered the blood stain in the terrace door and were very adamant of opening the door. A dried up stain outside lab conditions after two days cannot be noticed that easily by the best of the pathologist let alone a dentist , until one knows where to find d exact stain . So those two dental colleagues who found the stain knew where exactly in the door it was. Last of all rajesh talwar was a prosthodontist and nupur talwar was an orthodontist. Both of them wouldn’t have been that perfect in making a clean incison to cut the blood vessels., even though they had a years of practice all because there work specialisation denies them to have the skills required to make that inch perfect incision for that you need a general surgeon or in dentistry field an oral and maxillofacial surgeon or a periodontist.

    • Agyaat

      Cool it, Holmes! It’s not so twisted as this.

    • dayle

      outlandish statement

  • Supriya D

    I agree with one thing that Aarushi’s character has been assassinated left and right with all the false conjecture. It is disgusting and so repulsive to even think that how narrow minded people can be to even hint at the affair between a 13 year old and 50 year old servant. Dunno why it seems to me the parents are being unnecessarily harassed on this issue. Hope the truth prevails finally

    • dayle

      its because the CBI wanted to hide the fact that the noida police didnt investigate the crime scene properly. The noida police didnt expect a murder of this magnitude. So to save careers, they covered up the noida police

  • Sujata

    This is so heartbreaking…..moral of the story seems……never give access to ur home to domestic help…..keep ur fingers crossed that ur luck doesn’t run out coz that’s what u need to be safe in a judicial system like India’s …and never live in states with backward police force and judicial officers like UP if u have a modern lifestyle!

    • BenguluruHuduga

      Don’t have domestic helps. Males and females are equally responsible for household work. Women should spend more time with kids in their formative years.

      • dayle

        get outta here you cbi reporter,,,the money you took smeels of stench

      • tintin

        Sir formative years are 0 to 10. Aarushi was 14.

  • Deepa Chellam

    The Talwars have my deep admiration for their fighting spirit…..the character assassination of Aarushi must be so painful for them…..they have lost their only daughter in such a gruesome manner….and now stand convicted without evidence for her murder.. And the public are baying for their blood….their only fault their modern outlook and that they kept a whiskey bottle in their house……I am appalled!!!!!

    • BenguluruHuduga

      Rubbish. Its not fighting spirit. First up they are not accepting the court’s verdict, sitting and going on national TV saying system is out to witch hunt. Youngsters are getting wrong message on what is being shown on media. What on earth will a 13 year old say to her dad ? “Dad, will I be safe or be witch hunted by law enforcement officials ?”

      • Agyaat

        ” Youngsters are getting wrong message on what is being shown on media. ”

        Damn. You’re an insane thing altogether. You’re a hazard to justice. Wrong message? Messages are more important than truth and justice to you !!

        “What on earth will a 13 year old say to her dad ? “Dad, will I be safe or be witch hunted by law enforcement officials ?””

        Goddamn well a 13 yr old and any one else for that matter should learn that the system is out to save its own image, with the help of diabolical rogues like you. You’re more concerned about manipulating appearances, images, messages, and what not, to fit a prejudiced goal than what the truth is. You’e evidently unfit to concern yourself with truth and justice.

        Just shut up and get lost out of everywhere. Mr. dayle has better fitting words for you.

      • dayle

        youre a fag …get out

      • tintin

        you are wrongly convicted of your daughter and you accept it. God forbid if anything like this happens to you then i turn around and ask you to accept the verdict and not appeal against it….then i would like to see your reaction. Every person has a right to appeal

    • BenguluruHuduga

      Its not whiskey bottle. Please read the judgement report. The judge has been thorough in what he has done. In India, when people work hard and do the right thing, they get castigated !!

      • Agyaat

        “The judge has been thorough in what he has done.” Yup. He’s been thorough in his prejudice. For once, there’s agreement we can find, if you take it right ways. LOL !!!

      • dayle

        damn youre comic strip of a report

      • tintin

        yes according to the judge Rajesh Talwar was prepared for such eventuality so he kept a scalpel in his house(please ask how many dentist keep it in there house) and like a joker he wore gloves and drank scotch.wine and beer.

  • Agyaat

    It is very doubtful if Talwars will get any respite in HC and later in SC. The one bit of evidence they had, to claim that there was a foreign person in the house is the Krishna-pillow-cover-with-Hemraj-blood, which the CBI ‘fixed’ by getting the ‘typo’ letter from their best friends at the CDFD Hyderabad. It’s one matter of concern that the CDFD witness appearing for the prosecution is under distress from CBI in another unrelated case, conveniently for the CBI to extract desired testimonies and ‘typo’ letters, while it is another that such ‘typo’s are near impossible to occur given the standard coding methods of handling such pieces of forensic evidence(The CDFD guy went out saying that their lab and others in India don’t follow any such standards!!!) and also given that the description of the item goes into many pages. The Allahabad HC already sided by the CBI on the Krishna-pillow-cover point, admitting the CBI story of ‘typo’. So the Talwars look like they are as good as shafted by the system now.

    • BenguluruHuduga

      signed and paid for by the Talwars.

      • Agyaat

        Hain?!!

      • dayle

        ill violate youre mother if you make such outlandish statements

  • Agyaat

    I’ll tell you something more sinister is going to take place in the days ahead at Dasna Jail where the Talwars are now lodged.

    CBI will manage to get their person in the prison to get Dr. Rajesh Talwar handling a scalpel, and have it safely collected and safely sent out. Soon enough in the next trial/appeal, it will miraculously emerge as the recovered murder weapon, with Dr. Rajesh Talwar’s finger prints on it. I won’t be too surprised if they manage such a trick with Dr. Nupur Talwar handling a kitchen knife as well.

    Given the smarts of the CBI and that they have the means, methods, and possible motives for such things, it’s not a far fetched idea to those who are familiar with how things work in the Indian ‘system’.

  • Samir Thapa

    I always thought that Rajesh Talwar had confessed to the crime in UP police custody. That is the reason why after five years of investigation their version stands true. Here is an excellent article http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/the-perfect-mystery that hints about the confession. It is noteworthy how Nupur wanted the author to mention that they were doting parents. How superficial and what a hypocrisy!

    • Agyaat

      Well, the media has convicted the Talwars right on day zero, and carried a campaign against them by going with the unsubstantiable theory of their guilt. I can’t find it much surprising if they want more concerned and responsible coverage to the case, given already that slander has been the main line of the media, especially that Mihir Shrivastava guy whose work is loaded with innuendo.

      • Samir Thapa

        NDTV, Tehelka, Toronto Star, Mumbai Mirror have supported the lies from Talwars to various degree. I see that Talwars have hired Pallavi Polanki and Avirook Sen to write blogs and articles for them. Shoma from Tehelka, appears to be writing judgement for the session judge favoring Talwars, which she expected him to follow and he did not oblige. Patrick French is writing fiction defending Talwars and hoping that Indians would not differentiate between facts and fiction. So to say that media has covicted Talwars is a lie.

        • Agyaat

          You call the Talwars’ version a lie. They cleared all sorts of psychological tests, lie-detector tests, narco tests, twice over. So your holding them as a lie is invalid. Then, the Talwar version of the things came to be considered sincerely by the media after the Talwars pleaded to the court that investigation should carry on and be expanded so that the truth be out, after the CBI filed a closure report loaded with accusations and no evidence, and that too after leaking it to the media 3 days before to create a media-based wider social perception against the Talwars.

          You’re clear to yourself that anything that brings out the Talwars’ innocence and the CBI’s corruption is BS. There are all the documents – official documents – now available on the Internet for everyone to see and study, and make up their view of the case. All of what you call the Talwar-support-BS is clearly based on the official documents, that is, if you took the pains to go through them for identifying the truth. It’s obvious from your commentary that you don’t care about the truth, and that perhaps as a part of it, chose to not familiarize yourself with the case material.

        • dayle

          Mr. Murderer aka convict, come back to India, you are a disgrace to this earth….they have not hired either of the above, they have all understood that this is a deliberate conspiracy to cover the noida polices foibles and your grave misdeeds mr convict….the whole of India knows you are guilty….remove your hands from your crotch, watching adult stuff and come out in the open

    • dayle

      after 5 years of investigation, they are indeed successful in protecting murderers like you hiding in nepal…..the link you sent is perfect for confusing people even further….after all the salacious attacks against the Talwars, all the media propoganda, all the court frame-ups on nupur talwar for which she skipped sessiuons…you and your ilk of murderers are protected…disgusts me

    • tintin

      Oh thats why both the parents cleared 2 lie detector test …brainmapping test and the narco test …mind blasting

      • Samir Thapa

        Do remember that the murder convicts are very well educated dentists. These tests, if done in a neutral environment are indicative at best and not at all conclusive. That is the reason without the physical evidences that supports them, these tests are not acceptable in ANY COURT IN ANY COUNTRY. If these tests would be conclusive, we would not have human judges. We would have a High Court Lie Detector Machine, then Supreme Court Lie Detector Machine and so on … . There is a reason why they are not acceptable in our courts.

        • tintin

          No what these test shows is there is no deception in there answers. My dear friend i do agree with you that these tests are not addmisible in court but you need to think is it possible to beat lie detector tests (twice) brain mapping test and narco tests which are 92% accurate and not one parent but both of them not showing any deception to me its not possible. Please ask any psycologist Psychologist or people trained in conducting psyco test they will tell you its not possible for all the test not to show deception

    • dayle

      yeah right…says the guy who actually murdered Aarushi and Hemraj….you nepali murderer fag

  • Vidhi Metha

    We chronicled and decoded the Arushi Talwar case in an infographic.

    Take a look at the the nebulous crime from its onset on the night of 15th May, 2008 : http://homegrown.co.in/infographic-the-arushi-talwar-murder-case-chronicled-and-decoded/

  • Bangalore

    Since Nov 25 2013, I am reading through various print/video content on this case and still not able to come in terms. After the gory details of the Nithari Serial Killings, i had stopped reading newspapers and ignorance was bliss. After 5.5 years, when i just heard on the TV News channels that parents of a girl have been proven guilty of her murder, i found it unbelievable and really painful. Now that i am a parent, i can understand the feelings of Talwar’s. I was a perfect case who didn’t know about this subject, and could go through the details without “biased mind”. Next couple of days i read through the online content on wiki and other sources and found so many loopholes. ( I hope the content on wiki is correct)

    1) It is stated that Hemraj received a call @ 8.27 PM from a PCO, which was not traced. 2-3 hours before being killed, Hemraj spoke to some “unknown” person. Isnt this an open loose end?

    2) New statements issued by postmortem doctors is ridiculous (I verified it with Gynecs) and the motive of new statements after 1.5 years is questionable. Haven’t they mislead the CBI first team?

    3) Most of the prosecution witnesses have changes their statement many times. Does it mean Arun Kumar’s team didnt record them in order to save Talwar’s? Then at least let them hold first CBI team accountable and reprimand them legally. Why is it not done?

    4) The typographical error story !! I dont have words to explain.

    5) Why media is not conducting any sting operations in this case?

    6) So much of discussion about wall separating Talwar’s and Arushi’s room? Is this something that can not be verified and closed? In some interview Rajesh said this is something for anyone to come and verify.

    7) In the judgement that convicted Talwar’s, search for words may, would, could. You will get an idea of what the judgement is all about.

    8) CBI – 2 says, Dinesh Influenced the Postmortem. Dinesh says he didnt. CBI -2 says 2 golf clubs were sent later and Ajay Chadha sent an email to them, Talwars deny this and they say all the golf clubs were given at once. Who is right? I didnt see this being clarified any where and how will Talwar’s lawyers explain this?

    9) Narco results were rejected. But what about other details of CBI first team investigation, like sound simulation, Nepali songs hummed by servants etc

    I read lot of criticism about Arun Kumar’s investigation. But I have a different perspective. The details of his investigation were presented in a press conference. This might have been a failed investigation, but atleast it was transparent. Also his team didnt cook up stories to chargesheet the servants. Did he try to save Talwar’s? Was there a 4th killer in the house who is being saved? He is being completely silenced and moved back to parent cadre and later became ADG Law and Order of UP and again removed during Muzaffarnagar riots. Put all the information together and you get a picture of an upright officer being punished and sidelined. Who is doing it? Well………..!!!

    In Arushi case verdict, Noida Police escaped in a nice manner and CBI 1st teamreceived the media/public crap. On 26th Nov, Ex-DGP Vikram Singh came on NDTV discussion and said “UP police’s is the most professional investigation conducted. CBI upheld what UP police said about this case, though they did the investigation only for 14 days”. In many cases related to UP police, Arun Kumar as ADG Law and Order came on TV channels with a sorry face in an apologizing tone and said “Police shouldnt have done that and a strict action will be taken etc etc”. It is for us to put the details together and complete the puzzle.

    Since November, i have read though most of available online information on this case and all i can say is no justice for Arushi and Hemraj yet. It becomes evident that Talwar’s have never changed their statements any time and it is the police and investigation agencies changing their stands and finally CBI has been successful in washing it out of their hands.

    While going through the online content, i got to learn a lot about so called “eminent people”, who participated in debates on channels talking the same thing again and again and also exposing their corrupt/cruel mind. The SC lawyers, Ex-IPS officers, EX DGP of UP, journalists etc and i am worried how biased our expert people are. No need to mention “starry” celeb journalist like Ms Shobha De.
    Also so called TV channels which produced all that crap with titles “Mid Night Secret” with reconstruction of crime scene and enacted what CBI said. Disgusting!!!

    There are good exceptions. I did see some meaningful debates on NDTV/CNN and daily court proceedings covered by Avirook Sen.

    My heart cries for Talwar’s and Arushi/Hemraj. Hope Allahabad high court has some sane group of people, who can think of reopening this case and allows more scientific investigation of whatever that is left over.

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