BJP leader and former union minister Subramanian Swamy joins Abhinandan Sekhri for an interview that repeatedly crosses into territory we can’t fully broadcast – several portions had to be bleeped out. 

The former law minister trains his guns on the highest offices in the country. The conversation veers into personal territory, with Swamy making wild allegations that we have not broadcast.

The interview also dives into the mystery of Swamy’s own “invincibility”. While others face FIRs for criticism, Swamy has remained largely untouched. He suggests his understanding of the law makes him a difficult target. “Maybe they also know that I don’t need a lawyer.”

Swamy also delivers a critique of the BJP government’s core pillars. He dismisses official GDP figures as “all bogus,” claiming that officials sign off on wrong data out of fear, and labels the Atmanirbhar Bharat initiative as “junk”. On diplomacy, he calls the PM a “born coward” for his handling of the India-US trade deal, insisting that Americans respect those who stand up for themselves. 

Swamy describes a relationship in which the Sangh too has become dependent on the levers of state power to challenge the Modi government. 

A quick update on our interview with Subramanian Swamy:

After putting out the teaser, we’ve decided to remove a segment from both the preview and the full interview behind the paywall. This is the portion where Swamy makes a series of personal allegations.

To be clear: we had already presented these as unverified claims and had bleeped parts of them. But since the teaser went out, we’ve seen the conversation around it spiral into a kind of grotesque speculation — particularly about women that we do not want to amplify.

So we’ve taken a call. The entire segment has now been cut. This is an exceptional case as we never usually edit any part of interviews. 

What remains is still a sharp, revealing interview — on power, politics, the RSS, and Swamy’s own sense of political “invincibility”. But we’re not interested in feeding a cycle of insinuation and innuendo.

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